Why don't most of the newer ZT models have lanyard holes?

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What's up with ZT and not putting lanyard holes in their newer models? The Emerson Collabs (620, 620CF, 630) Hinderers (562, 562CF) and others (770, 770CF) don't have them. The 801's, and the new 808 and 450 do. What does ZT have against Lanyard Holes. All of the older models had them. Is it a style thing?

This isn't a make or break feature in my opinion, but I think it is a good thing to have.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks.
 
My guess is that it is aesthetic. There just isn't space. Besides, I hate lanyard holes and am glad they don't have any. That being said the lanyard holes on the real Hinderers would not keep me from acquire one if I had the chance.

I wonder if it is a safer bet for manufacturers to put a whole. Also, why not drill one?

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Could it be now that modern design uses columnar offsets instead of solid backspacers one can just attach a lanyard to an offset?

I think most have enough blade clearance for leather lace or 550 paracord. Sebenzas have never had a "lanyard hole."
 
I have a strong preference for lanyard holes. All of the folders that I carry have cord fobs on them. The very first thing I noticed when I saw the 0562 for the first time was the lack of lanyard hole, and I have to admit that I would have probably picked up a 0562 if it had one.
 
Could it be now that modern design uses columnar offsets instead of solid backspacers one can just attach a lanyard to an offset?

I think most have enough blade clearance for leather lace or 550 paracord. Sebenzas have never had a "lanyard hole."

Forgot about that :) Probably because I have made the leap to buying a Sebenza yet.
 
I just ordered a 0562 and almost didn't because there was no lanyard hole but then I realized you can attach a lanyard to the last pin that the pocket clip is attached to.
 
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I have a strong preference for lanyard holes. All of the folders that I carry have cord fobs on them. The very first thing I noticed when I saw the 0562 for the first time was the lack of lanyard hole, and I have to admit that I would have probably picked up a 0562 if it had one.

I have that preference too. The 562 was the knife that inspired this thread. I don't mind that it does not have the hole, however it is a departure from all the other folders that I have carried for the last six years (CRKT M21-14sfg, BM 710, BM 275 and ZT 566).
 
The 0562 doesn't have a lanyard hole, but the 0620 (and 0630) and 0770CF can accommodate one. They have a lanyard pin at the tail end of the handle. You can loop full 550 cord through the 0620, and the 0770CF will fit gutted 550 cord. If just tie it on directly on the lanyard pin, you can also fit full 550 cord on the 0770CF.

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Camouflaged blades and no lanyards make the ZT knives more able to get away from you and not be found. That's why they are great for Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape.
 
The 0620 has a dedicated lanyard pin in the butt end of the knife (so does the Sebenza 21), and the 0562 uses the rear stand off (so does the Sebenza 25). So there should be no deal breakers with any of these knives.
 
Not having a dedicated lanyard hole through both handles generally allows you to have a better blade to handle ratio. It also tends to look cleaner and likely saves a fair number of additional finishing steps.
 
Not having a dedicated lanyard hole through both handles generally allows you to have a better blade to handle ratio. It also tends to look cleaner and likely saves a fair number of additional finishing steps.
This is the answer. Those models are mostly ZT's attempts at moving away from larger knives or creating smaller models of ones already in production. I dont like it either. They could save space elsewhere, and for many people this can be a deal-breaker. I never understood why until I began using a lanyard. They are really helpful. That said, I haven't been able to check these out to see if there is space left (on purpose) for a cable on the last standoff. Some models that dont have lanyard holes do this. Just waiting to get our stock in and if I remember I'll try to update :D
 
This is the answer. Those models are mostly ZT's attempts at moving away from larger knives or creating smaller models of ones already in production. I dont like it either. They could save space elsewhere, and for many people this can be a deal-breaker. I never understood why until I began using a lanyard. They are really helpful. That said, I haven't been able to check these out to see if there is space left (on purpose) for a cable on the last standoff. Some models that dont have lanyard holes do this. Just waiting to get our stock in and if I remember I'll try to update :D

The 0770 and 0620 (and presumably 0630) all have what appears to be a lanyard pin at the tail end of the handle (see pics above). Does it make much of a difference if the lanyard goes through a hole in the sides of the handles as opposed to being tied/looped through a lanyard pin on the tail of the handle?
 
Not having a dedicated lanyard hole through both handles generally allows you to have a better blade to handle ratio. It also tends to look cleaner and likely saves a fair number of additional finishing steps.

Not sure about the blade:handle ratio but I do notice a cleaner look to the newer folders without a lanyard hole. It seems to give a knife a more streamlined look. I still prefer a hole over a standoff though. Some of the knives don't allow much blade clearance to use a standoff.
 
Camouflaged blades and no lanyards make the ZT knives more able to get away from you and not be found. That's why they are great for Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape.

Add a non-glare clip to them and their getaway ability increases exponentially. ;) :D
 
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