Why is the BK10 made of different steel?

[bearedmonkey]

I read a while back that the BK10 is made of a different steel. Is this true? How come? Is one better than the other? I think I remember reading that you can't patina the BK10 because it won't rust. This seems like a great thing -- how come all BKTs aren't made of this steel?

 

[clich]

Bk10 is made of the same stuff. 1095. Its camillus stuff. The bk77 is made if s30v stainless.

 

[Outsoul]

I think you may be mistaken, the only stainless one I know of is the BK77. Have you checked the database? There are a few pics of patinaed(?) BK10s if you do some searching

 

[never too sharp]

1095cv, just like the rest of 'em. The LE's weren't powder coated, production models are.

 

[NixKustoms]

I remember reading somewhere that the steel the 10 its made from its the same as the carbon V that child steels were made from back in the day. they are Cam blanks.

 

[whereismyclock]

Specs as per Bladite

o Original Camillus green cordura sheath... Nothing special there. Move along. Order a Spec-Ops shorty now.

o Knives will come with two (2) sets of handles - Grivory *and* Micarta - woot! They will be regular finish, not the high polish as seen in the picture.

o Grind should be normal as per a standard BK-10, the swedge/false-edge is NOT sharpened

o Coating: NONE. Tumbled finish. Pre-Stripped me buckos. Sweet!

o Tang: Skeletonized. Nice!

From the Camillus literature: '''Exclusive high carbon steel (0170-6C) flat ground blade, 58-59 RC blade hardness, black epoxy coating, Becker trademark GV6H ergonomic handles, Kydex multi-carry sheath system, Proudly made in the USA''' and '''11.25 inch overall length, 5.0 inch length blade, .188 inch thick blade'''

oo Shape: clip point
oo Edge Angle: 20 degrees
oo Grind: flat
oo Steel: 0170-6
oo Rc hardness: 58-59
oo Blade length: 5.5 inches
oo Overall length: 11.25 inches
oo Blade thickness: 0.188 inches
oo Knife Weight: approx 12.35 ounces with Camillus Grivory Handles
oo Handle: Grivory-GV-6H
oo Sheath: OD green Nylon sheath w/kydex insert
oo Origins: knife made in USA, ORIGINAL sheath made in china

 

[ac700wildcat]

Mr. Clock and Mr. Crazy are right. It not 1095 and its not stainless. Its carbonv or 0170-6, same thing. Moose even said it was carbonv not too long ago. As for why its carbonv and not 1095, I'm not sure, but I know the blanks were leftover Camillus blanks that were ground and heat treated by Kabar.

 

[clich]

Carbon v is a trademarked by cold steel I believe, so Kabar can't say its carbon v even tho its the same. So its called 1095cv or 0170-6

 

[Moosez45]

Carbon v is a trademarked by cold steel I believe, so Kabar can't say its carbon v even tho its the same. So its called 1095cv or 0170-6

0170-6/CarbonV/1095CV same difference.

When Camillus made the BKT's, they were all 0170-6, but they had a higher HT on them. 'Bout the only difference. And like Toooj said, they made them harder, we made them tougher. Something like that.

Moose

 

[Flexxx]

1095 Steel
the 10 is the series of steel the 95 is the percentage of carbon (.95% Carbon)

Other names for 1095: 0170-6 & 50100-B and Carbon V.
0170-6 is the steel makers classification, 50100-B is the AISI designation.

 

[bearedmonkey]

Wow, ask and you shall receive! So it could still rust, huh? Why do they rust? Is it the carbon? If so, what purpose does the high carbon content serve?

 

[Bladite]

Wow, ask and you shall receive! So it could still rust, huh? Why do they rust? Is it the carbon? If so, what purpose does the high carbon content serve?

yes, it will rust.

all steel has carbon. okay. mostly technically then you get to alloys and such that don't... but then it's not carbon steel.

even stainless will rust "discolor" perhaps. iirc, they replace more carbon with nickel, or other metals. them alloys.

no iron, no rust; funny right? non iron based alloys, are not technically steel. behold the chemical formula for rust and such: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust)

google around about "carbon steel" and "properties" and knife making lore. learn something. then tell us

yeah, somewhere in my back brain, i have an answer or three all queued up, but it's after midnite, cold, and i'm admiring some other metal right now... yar