Why Is The Force One So Expensive?

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Peter La

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Compared to other Busses, including the Ergo Battle Mistress, the FORCE ONE seems to be the same price or in some cases even more expensive. Why is this, the Force One is smaller so it makes sence it would require less materials to create, thus a reduce in price. I can see that a tanto tip could be more difficult to grind but...

Why is the Force One so expensive?

BTW, for those with one, how do they feel in hand?
 
It feels absolutely deadly.

I imagine it's so expensive due to the number of different grinds on it. I don't have it with me, but going from memory I think it has like 12 bevels on it.

Not to mention the stories I heard from Jerry about shop accidents with it. :eek:

While most Busse's excel at Chopping, the forte of the Force One is clearly the thrust (Cleaves coconuts in twain with a single wrist chop too FYI).

I'd imagine this thing would easily penetrate most body armor out there.
 
the new line has better handles, and better options.
If you're looking at the ones on the company store,
they have the better blade finishes and will be more expensive anyway.
 
Peter La said:
Why is this, the Force One is smaller so it makes sence it would require less materials to create, thus a reduce in price. I can see that a tanto tip could be more difficult to grind but...
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Peter, you're using a very incorrect measurement of a knife's cost. Size can have an impact especially due to material costs has you mentioned but isn't the final determining factor by a long shot.

Example.

Battle Mistress E-Series $347
Battle Mistress Fusion $397
Off Duty $467

  1. How much do the materials cost? (real ivory vs synthetic ivory)
  2. How many man hours will it take to work with the selected materials (some require more time. 1/4" vs 3/8")
  3. How high quality is the fit and finish (i.e. production vs custom. ZT series was an excellent example)
 
Thanks for the information everyone. I may look into one. Those things look like they would be deadly in a fight. Again, thanks.
 
Plus al lthe additional grinds.

That spine grind has to take some time.

Since time = $$, more cost will result in an appropriate price differentail.

These pups are 1/4", so material cost is higher.

There are a lot of factors that goe into Blade prices.

Ours is not to question why, ours is but to sell, trade, or buy...LOL
 
thatmguy said:
Ours is not to question why, ours is but to sell, trade, or buy...LOL
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When when when?
Buy!!! Buy!!! Buy!!!
Oink Oink Oink
Porker Porker Porker

Huh?!? What is this "why" you speak of? ;)
 
Good points everyone. Thanks for all the info. Has anyone here done some real penetration tests with this blade? It looks like it would perform very well.

Oh, BTW, what is that band cutter on the spine for?
 
If I'm not mistaken,,,back when the Force One was first being offered,, the price for it in all it's diffrent combinations was the same as the Natural Outlaw in the same combinations,,, am I right about this :confused:
 
doorkicker said:
umm....cutting bands? :rolleyes:
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Sorry... What exactly are bands? Is it like the bone crusher on the back of the Cold Steel Outdoorsman? What is its purpose?
 
Cabbit said:
It feels absolutely deadly.

I imagine it's so expensive due to the number of different grinds on it. I don't have it with me, but going from memory I think it has like 12 bevels on it.

Not to mention the stories I heard from Jerry about shop accidents with it. :eek:

While most Busse's excel at Chopping, the forte of the Force One is clearly the thrust (Cleaves coconuts in twain with a single wrist chop too FYI).

I'd imagine this thing would easily penetrate most body armor out there.
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Shop accidents? Alright I smell a mildly entertaining story in the air. So what happened Jerry?
 
An accident with the Force One would not be good.

1)This one time, at band camp... (oh, nevermind)
2) This happened to a friend of a friend of mine...
 
Another thing that would lead one to believe the Force One is WAY more expensive is that the Busse Company Store stock is only available in higher grade finishes. They weren't that much more expensive in basic trim I don't think.
 
I have also felt a bit stupid asking about the band cutter thing.
(so now that Peter's already taken the hit):
What my guess has always been is those about 1" bands (maybe thinner, not sure) made of plastic or thin steel that hold pallets and small packages together. Again, I have never seen the back of knife used to cut this, and I really can't imagine how it could be done. Is the band cutter sharp? How's it work.
Please help me and Peter to become un-stupid. Thanks. ;)
 
Walking Man said:
I have also felt a bit stupid asking about the band cutter thing.
(so now that Peter's already taken the hit):
What my guess has always been is those about 1" bands (maybe thinner, not sure) made of plastic or thin steel that hold pallets and small packages together. Again, I have never seen the back of knife used to cut this, and I really can't imagine how it could be done. Is the band cutter sharp? How's it work.
Please help me and Peter to become un-stupid. Thanks. ;)
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When I worked for a retail store many years ago we had something very similar to today's knives with band cutters. It looked like a knife but where the edge would normally be was just a block of steel. The other side had a band cutter identical to what people put on the back of knives....just longer by a few inches.

We used simple utility knives most of the time but on extremely heavy packaging from vendors they would use really thick bands to secure shipments. There was no choice but to use the band cutter and take a whack at it. you could use large cutter edge pliers but even that hurt you hand after ten or twenty times a day.
 
Dark Nemesis said:
It looked like a knife but where the edge would normally be was just a block of steel. The other side had a band cutter identical to what people put on the back of knives....just longer by a few inches.
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Sounds more like you were holding a regular knife upside down.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p :p
 
Na, smartass. It was basically a weighted band cutter. The warehouse guys would swing that thing like it was a cleaver. Then again I suppose built up anger and bitterness would come from that job :)
 
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