Why no choil on the Endura/Salt/Delica series knives?

[Hawk45]

Just got a Pacific Salt (see thread below) and after using for a few days, I'm wondering why the Endura/Salt/Delica series don't have a finger choil for choking up on the knife (ala' Stretch or Dragonfly)? Looking at my Pacific Salt, it would seem that they are made for a choil the way the blade/handles meet, but they put the extra "bump" there where the choil should go. Is this by design or just room for improvement? I'm thinking about modding my own to put a choil in as it would only entail taking some FRN out with a dremel. If they had a choil, I'd probably have more of those models.
Just curious..

 

[RevDevil]

As a long time Delica and Endura user, I never thought the design really needed it. I'm sure other folks would come up with a more scientific and complex explanation though.
I was thinking about this myself though just yesterday as I was sharpening up my Delica. Maybe we will see it in the Delica5.

 

[mentaculus]

In order to create the space for a choil on the handle side, you have to either A)Increase the overall length of the handle by at least 3/8-1/2" or B)Reduce the space for a non-choil grip to allow for the choil space.

I personally think a handle design like that on the Delica or Salt is just better without a choil, because it creates a comfortable, strong grip in the standard position that doesn't feel crowded. If you look at a design like the caly 3 or UKPK, the ergo's are great, but pretty much require you to use a choil grip (or else it feels crowded without the choil) . As for the Sage, it has a great mix of the 2 grips, but that's because it has a significantly longer handle.

So personally, I think the design is perfect--it has a nice, roomy and secure area for a grip, and still has a nice non-sharpened tang portion to act as a stop point while closing the knife, without taking away handle space.

 

[yablanowitz]

Partly it is because the Salt series use existing FRN molds to keep costs down (third generation Delica and Endura molds) and those designs pre-date the move to put finger choils on everything. Another part may well be that the Delica and Endura are aimed more at the mass market, where finger choils are not as popular. Joe Average just sees blade length going to waste being used as part of the handle.