Why no mass produced Rinaldi TTKK design?

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I know there are a lot of guys out there who would love to own a Rinaldi TTKK, but the cost/delivery lead time is prohibitive. Why doesn't a Spyderco, Benchmade type maker of high end mass production knives make a fixed blade in that design? If they mass produced it in a good steel like VG-10, with G10 or Micarta handles, they'd probably get the cost down to around $150 with a kydex sheath and sell a ton of them. I'd personally like to see a few blade lengths like 4, 5, and 6 inch, or a compromise at 5"(I'd like 6" and I know a lot of other guys like 4"). What am I missing here? Why isn't that blade design being offered by major makers?
 
Good idea, although I prefer the Gambit or Enigma myself. Please make them prodos....in S30V or VG10.
 
Agree with Spyken, Enigma in Talonite is my dream.
But Enigma in S30V at a fraction of the cost will
probably work too. ;)

Andy
 
Why doesn't Ferrarri make a pickup truck? Why doesn't Chevy make a Ferrarri clone for $25,000?

Being a knifemaker means that you're part craftsman, part artist, and part businessman.

Some are willing to let other companies produce some of their designs, others are not, and still others are just waiting until the time and the deal are right.
 
Bite your tongue! lol Trace has enough to do without negotiating contracts with outside makers!!! :eek:

See, I'm on his waiting list for a custom, :D so please don't go around making suggestions (good though they might be) that will prolong the wait.:D :D
 
Originally posted by BigDeeeeeeee
Why doesn't Chevy make a Ferrarri clone for $25,000?

They sorta tried that with the Pontiac Fiero. Hopefully they learned their lesson from that one.

Personally I would be all about a 4" TTKK in either 440C or O1 (or even 1095). Put it in a nice inexpensive utility sheath and price it competitively to Beckers and it'll be a winner.
 
Take a deep breath guys! I don't think anyone needs the approval of Rinaldi to make a knife as I described. It is basically a tactical chef's knife. I think Rinaldi even uses "chef's" in the TTKK's name. I just used his knife as an example most of you could relate to. Anyone can make a chef's knife design, and 100s of different manufacturers do...for the kitchen. What I'm talking about is for use outside the kitchen. Spyderco or BM could take S30v or VG-10 and quality handle materials and produce a great knife of this type. And producing it in volume could get the price within the range of the masses. Just beacuse it's not from a custom maker doesn't take it from a Ferrari to a Chevy...geeze!
 
Originally posted by selfinflicted
I know there are a lot of guys out there who would love to own a Rinaldi TTKK, but the cost/delivery lead time is prohibitive. Why doesn't a Spyderco, Benchmade type maker of high end mass production knives make a fixed blade in that design? If they mass produced it in a good steel like VG-10, with G10 or Micarta handles, they'd probably get the cost down to around $150 with a kydex sheath and sell a ton of them. I'd personally like to see a few blade lengths like 4, 5, and 6 inch, or a compromise at 5"(I'd like 6" and I know a lot of other guys like 4"). What am I missing here? Why isn't that blade design being offered by major makers?
Maybe you should reread your post. "That design" happens to belong to Trace Rinaldi, therefore some who read your post may have assumed that you were talking about some type of colaboration. If you just want a similar knife maybe you should take a look at a Benchmade Outbounder . It's relatively similar to the TTKK .

But if you're not really interested in other peoples opinion then don't ask the God Damned question, geeze!

:rolleyes:
 
TTKK means Talmage Tactical Kitchen Knife.

Like it or not, the TTKK is Trace's design. While I do agree that a production version would be very cool, it shouldn't happen without Trace's involvement. I don't know if Trace has ever looked into a production (or maybe Midtech) version, only he can answer that.

I'm sure he will chime in soon.
 
Amen BigDeeeeeeee. :)

AndrewT and Spyken: The knife in my avatar is theEnigma that was featured in the American Handgunner article on Trace. It is my favorite EDC fixed blade. :D :cool:
 
OK Deeeeee, you can say things on the internet that you wouldn't get away with in real life...so you flamed me good, hope you feel better! I agree I shouldn't have said THE Rinaldi design, I should have said LIKE the Rinaldi design, because that's what I really meant. I didn't want to start WWIII here, I just wanted to use it as a known example of the TYPE of knife I'd like to get at a production knife price. I'm thinking of a good all around user in a basic chef's knife design, which no one holds a controlling patent on. Something good with food in camp, as well as other outdoor chores. I would personally like to see it an inch or 2 longer than the TTKK. Of course it wouldn't be the quality of a Rinaldi or the exact same design, but a good production maker could make an excellent one none the less. People who don't want to spend $300+ could get one and be happy with it. I can't know for sure, but I think a lot of people would be interested in making the purchase.
 
Originally posted by selfinflicted
OK Deeeeee, you can say things on the internet that you wouldn't get away with in real life
Don't be such an ass and don't assume anything about what I can and can't get away with in real life.
 
selfinflicted: The way you worded your post, you suggested that a manufacturer should take Trace's design and sell it at a lower price with greater availability just because Trace can't make them fast enough. I feel his response was valid. I feel the same way as he does.

Also, I hope no one would use this forum as a platform to make anonymous malicious comments. I know I don't. I post under my real name because I am who I am. I wouldn't post anything here that I wouldn't be afraid to say in person.

FYI, I would love a more affordable TTKK, but I don't know if Trace is interested in making a production version.
 
For those that forget . TOPS is a mass production maker and Trace works with them . So ask Trace if he has any plans to let TOPS make a TTKK .
 
I suggested this in a thread awhile back that Trace Rinaldi was posting in, but last I checked he had not responded to my suggestion.
 
Big Dee

That was one of the rudest responses I have read on the
forum. Curse words do not advance the conversation.

Selfinflicted,

The Spyderco Perrin may meet your needs.
 
Originally posted by chrisp
Big Dee

That was one of the rudest responses I have read on the
forum. Curse words do not advance the conversation.

God Damn, I think you're right, I'm such an ass. Oh well. :p
 
Deeeee, hopefully you've got all of those kind words out of your system.
Again, this is not meant to be about Rinaldi knives, I get the fact that I used an unfortunate example, this is meant to be about the basic chef's design, which could be made into a tactical/outdoor type knife by anyone, without the permission of anyone, just like a bowies or skinners are. The high quality mass producers aren't really making that design, and I'm just saying that IMHO it would be a nice, usable offering. I think a lot of guys would buy it at a reasonable price, and I'm a bit surprised and disappointed that they're not available, and don't understand why they're not.
 
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