Why No Sencut Discussion?

Chronovore

Chronovore

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I've been fairly impressed with the Sencut line. Some of the designs have been elegantly simple, broadly attractive, and wonderfully practical. The materials are great. The actions are good. They have truly taken the torch from Civivi and are offering incredible value at very competitive prices.

For instance, the Snap was my favorite budget knife last year. It delivered an arguably better value than the original Civivi debut line-up from 2018 and at the same price. It runs the same 9Cr18Mov with WE's excellent heat treatment. I got the "premium" version with wood scales for $45 and I love it. The Neches is easily my favorite budget knife of 2022 so far. I can already tell it's going to be a contender for my budget knife of the year. These are too good not to talk about here!

Earlier this week, Sencut released a small fixed blade and nobody mentioned it. Last night, they released this steel frame lock in 10Cr15CoMov (Chinese VG-10). I only saw these because I bothered to check. Why not do the release announcements here like we get for WE and Civivi?

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jp9mm said:
That fixed blade is really nice, love the sheath /clip setup also used on the tamashii
looks like they only sell direct and on amazon?
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They also have their own website. The prices tend to be lower at their website, at least for new releases.

(This is in contrast with Civivi's website, where prices are consistently higher than at regular retailers. I recently got a $7 off coupon for for the Civivi website after participating in a contest. It didn't make up the difference between what other retailers were charging without coupons or discount codes.)

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My first Sencut, Scepter, came in this week from the secondary and I bought it as a budget left carry Elementum. I like the opening action and the handle shape. Only issue that I have is the detent feels a bit loose, blade can deploy when shook hard. I have 4 Civivi linerlock flippers that don't have this issue.

I disassembled for cleaning of the detent ball and hole, then cleaned the floating stop pin and both sides of the liner reliefs for the stop pin. I reassembled with no change in detent. I compared my Scepter to my Brazen, which also has a floating stop pin and noticed my Scepter's detent tab still had a slight gap between lockbar/detent tab face and the blade tang (when the blade is closed). I dissembled again, pushed on the lockbar and took a file to the liner reliefs to open the stop pin channels a little to allow the blade to close tighter, allowing the entire detent ball to seat inside the detent hole.

After reassembly, the lockbar/detent tab now sits flush with the blade tang area, which I would imagine allows as much detent ball surface into the detent hole. Unfortunately, the blade can still be shaken open.

Are there any other fixes I can try? Most of the threads I have read were about new knives with replies of Return Knife for Replacement, which in this case is not on the table. In the future, I'll be sure to ask about weak detents.
 
Oloung1 said:
My first Sencut, Scepter, came in this week from the secondary and I bought it as a budget left carry Elementum. I like the opening action and the handle shape. Only issue that I have is the detent feels a bit loose, blade can deploy when shook hard. I have 4 Civivi linerlock flippers that don't have this issue.

I disassembled for cleaning of the detent ball and hole, then cleaned the floating stop pin and both sides of the liner reliefs for the stop pin. I reassembled with no change in detent. I compared my Scepter to my Brazen, which also has a floating stop pin and noticed my Scepter's detent tab still had a slight gap between lockbar/detent tab face and the blade tang (when the blade is closed). I dissembled again, pushed on the lockbar and took a file to the liner reliefs to open the stop pin channels a little to allow the blade to close tighter, allowing the entire detent ball to seat inside the detent hole.

After reassembly, the lockbar/detent tab now sits flush with the blade tang area, which I would imagine allows as much detent ball surface into the detent hole. Unfortunately, the blade can still be shaken open.

Are there any other fixes I can try? Most of the threads I have read were about new knives with replies of Return Knife for Replacement, which in this case is not on the table. In the future, I'll be sure to ask about weak detents.
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This is more of a general issue that can (and does) affect lots of knives. Sometimes, that's just how a particular model is. (I don't have a Scepter so I can't say.) Sometimes, there is variation in the detent strength on production knives. I've had enough enough knives across my bench to see this happen with Civivi, more expensive WE knives, and many other brands.

There are two things to think about: the interface between the detent hole and detent ball, and the tension of the lock bar. I consider myself an amateur modder/tinkerer and I won't mess around with the former. As far as the latter, you can try very carefully bending the lock bar. You'll want to pay attention the resting position while disassembled. Get just enough inelastic deformation to move that resting position a tiny bit towards the direction of engagement. Again, be careful! A little goes a long way.

Before doing any of this, first check with Sencut. It never hurts to send an email or fill out a contact form on a manufacturer's website. I don't know if they'll help you in this situation but it is free to find out.
 
Chronovore said:
This is more of a general issue that can (and does) affect lots of knives. Sometimes, that's just how a particular model is. (I don't have a Scepter so I can't say.) Sometimes, there is variation in the detent strength on production knives. I've had enough enough knives across my bench to see this happen with Civivi, more expensive WE knives, and many other brands.

There are two things to think about: the interface between the detent hole and detent ball, and the tension of the lock bar. I consider myself an amateur modder/tinkerer and I won't mess around with the former. As far as the latter, you can try very carefully bending the lock bar. You'll want to pay attention the resting position while disassembled. Get just enough inelastic deformation to move that resting position a tiny bit towards the direction of engagement. Again, be careful! A little goes a long way.

Before doing any of this, first check with Sencut. It never hurts to send an email or fill out a contact form on a manufacturer's website. I don't know if they'll help you in this situation but it is free to find out.
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Thanks for the constructive feedback and also a wider data set of knives - since more than half of my knives (other than my Civivi's) are lockbacks. Going through the rest of my knives I realized I also had one axis and one compression knife that could gravity open. After more reading, the Scepter and axis knives are at the threshold of the "ketchup" shake while the compression is at a "fastball" shake.

In the meantime I'll reach out to Sencut to see if there are anything they suggest and venture on to the other two once I learn more about the Scepter.
 
As long as it doesn't shake out really easy it's fine. I can shake out 90% of the 100 or so knives I've handled. Mostly really strong detents and or light blades don't shake out
 
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