Why only one 4"-5" folder? (And it's barely 4")

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derangedhermit

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My pocket would easily accomodate the additional inch of length. Benchmade has some lightweight 3"-4" knives. And I think that a combo blade becomes more practical and useful with a blade longer than about 3.5". A longer handle would make for a more secure grip, too.

The mini Griptilian has been a huge success. How about a maxi Griptilian, blade around 4.5"?
 
I think place that allows 4.5"+ blade carry may be limited. In case of folder, 3~4" blade means 4~4.5 handle anyway.

Have you try 810 or 275 Adamas?
 
I too wish there were more larger production blades in general, but most of the country and placed out side of US have lenght restrictions. That's caused makers to cater to the sweet spot 3"

There are 4-6" folders, just not BM. Cold steel and qtrmstr are some that come to mind.
 
derangedhermit said:
My pocket would easily accomodate the additional inch of length. Benchmade has some lightweight 3"-4" knives. And I think that a combo blade becomes more practical and useful with a blade longer than about 3.5". A longer handle would make for a more secure grip, too.

The mini Griptilian has been a huge success. How about a maxi Griptilian, blade around 4.5"?
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Here in Italy is better to have even the Micro Griptilian (something like 2-2.5" max).
I think it will be a great success world wide.
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MobileFireLord said:
I think place that allows 4.5"+ blade carry may be limited. In case of folder, 3~4" blade means 4~4.5 handle anyway.

Have you try 810 or 275 Adamas?
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Texas allows up to a 5.5" blade. The balisongs are around 4.5", and they are popular I guess,

The 810 Contego does look like a nice sturdy knife, at just under 4". r
 
I'd love to see a 4" Grip.

Started a thread about it some time ago to try and gauge interest and the responses I got were less then enthusiastic.

Personally I'd like to see a larger version offered as I tend to prefer a larger sized blade. But then again BM does currently offer some awesome knives in the 4" range.
 
Double post.

sorry, don't know why it does that.
 
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I would also love to see slightly larger offerings. My two current Benchmades are the 710 and an 810 (on the way), so I guess I like the larger ones. I was considering a few different models, but that size is limited with Benchmade currently. I wish they still made the AFCK and the Rukus, but sadly those were discontinued before I really got into and appreciated the Axis lock design. A larger Griptilian in 3.75 - 4 inches would be really cool.
 
pbcg said:
I'd love to see a 4" Grip.

Started a thread about it some time ago to try and gauge interest and the responses I got were less then enthusiastic.

Personally I'd like to see a larger version offered as I tend to prefer a larger sized blade. But then again BM does currently offer some awesome knives in the 4" range.
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Since Griptilian is capsuled liner, it wouldn't make sence to create longer blade. I would recommend Adamas or Contego, may be Onslaught.
 
derangedhermit said:
Texas allows up to a 5.5" blade. The balisongs are around 4.5", and they are popular I guess,

The 810 Contego does look like a nice sturdy knife, at just under 4". r
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On discontinues list, AFCK, Onslaught, Rukus. If this is a sign of anything, demands of over 4" folder are not high enough.
 
The LFK was an interesting concept.

I'd be all over a US made Axis version of this beast.
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My skirmish was confiscated by the police some years ago for being over 4". Ive been very conscious of the matter since...Won't carry my onslaught. But the 810 is like a hair under 4" which makes it a safe option. I've even repeated the scenario with an officer who whipped out his tape and measured the 810 only to return it to me. Don't ask why I keep getting searched by police I think they profilin.
 
pbcg said:
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that or why it wouldn't make sense?
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Griptilian Capsuled liner is partial liner within grivory (plastic) handle. So having bigger blade on small partial liner doesn't make sense for sturdy harder use folders. If BKC would to make bigger folder, no doubt they would use full liner folders that are majority of 4"+ (excluding some filet knife).
 
MobileFireLord said:
On discontinues list, AFCK, Onslaught, Rukus. If this is a sign of anything, demands of over 4" folder are not high enough.
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I agree that for the general or mass market smaller blade sizes (3.6") and below are more popular and have greater demand. No question there.

However, doesn't mean there's no demand for a larger sized blade either. Just less so. Look at the Contego for example, seems to be very popular and I think had unexpected crossover appeal being a Black Class an all. The 710 has been popular for over 15 years and still going strong.
 
MobileFireLord said:
Griptilian Capsuled liner is partial liner within grivory (plastic) handle. So having bigger blade on small partial liner doesn't make sense for sturdy harder use folders. If BKC would to make bigger folder, no doubt they would use full liner folders that are majority of 4"+ (excluding some filet knife).
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i get it's a partial liner but your assuming that if they made it lager they would keep it a partial liner for it not to make sense. Maybe they would make it a full liner design to accommodate the size? That's up to the engineers to determine based on the intended use.

If they decided to make it I'm sure they would do it right.
 
pbcg said:
i get it's a partial liner but your assuming that if they made it lager they would keep it a partial liner for it not to make sense. Maybe they would make it a full liner design to accommodate the size? That's up to the engineers to determine based on the intended use.
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I was referring to "larger Griptilian", meaning to use partial liner to "save cost". There are full liners version in same size as Griptilian, so it may be unlikely to enlarge it. Of cause I would not be speaking for design engineer at BKC. Chances of partial liner model to exceed 3.5" seems very unlikely.

Needless to say that full liner models are more expensive, because they need to manufacture precisely shaped liners and key-ed holes that would line up well. Without that tight tolerance, it would show as non centered blade.
 
MobileFireLord said:
Needless to say that full liner models are more expensive, because they need to manufacture precisely shaped liners and key-ed holes that would line up well. Without that tight tolerance, it would show as non centered blade.
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Not sure I completely agree with your assessment. Sure, larger would cost more, Blade, liners, handle material exc. But would it really have to be that much more it wouldn't be cost effective? or undesirable to the end user due to cost?

I just bought a 14715 and it has a larger blade, more expensive steel, full liners, G10 and it cost just $2 more then a full size 551 Grip. Not to mention the quality,tolerances, and F&F are outstanding.

Point being I wouldn't dismiss the idea that if they wanted to, operative word "wanted" BM could produce a larger Grip, say with a 4" blade and it could be a well made quality design that wouldn't have to cost all that much more.

But I'm not a BKC knife engineer either so what do I know.
 
Not sure I'd want to see such a big knife in the griptilian form factor. The full-sized Grip already feels pretty meaty to me, and furthermore is "clacky" and less-balanced when compared to the mini-grip. A "maxi-grip" would go that much further in the direction of adding flex/vibration within the handle material and would move the center of gravity further forward, unless they were to add a lot of weight (which would defeat one of the main design philosophies of this series IMO).

We can carry whatever length blade we wish to where I live, so I'd welcome longer blade options from BM. But I would rather see them scale up one of the Osborne designs, where you are starting out with a better-balanced, more compact design per inch of blade length. But yeah, then it would cost a fortune.

IMO.
 
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