Why Spyderco?

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Why won't spyderco make coarser stones for the sharpmaker?? I know they make the diamonds, but why not make some regular stones like the brown stones, just a coarser grit??? It would be cheaper than the diamonds, and they don't wear out either. Then you could have coarse, medium, fine, and ultra fine stones. I guess I am just having trouble spending the high price on the diamonds that if I am not careful, I will rub the diamonds off.
 
jvarn81 said:
Why won't spyderco make coarser stones for the sharpmaker?? I know they make the diamonds, but why not make some regular stones like the brown stones, just a coarser grit??? It would be cheaper than the diamonds, and they don't wear out either. Then you could have coarse, medium, fine, and ultra fine stones. I guess I am just having trouble spending the high price on the diamonds that if I am not careful, I will rub the diamonds off.
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I too would like coarse stones for my sharpmaker +1!
 
A bit off topic, but kind of not. I don't have much experience with D2 let alone benchmade D2. The only benchmade I've ever owned was a mini-grip in 154cm, and I gave it away because benchmade just doesn't do it for me. It felt "cheap" to me,but anyway, a co-worker had a benchmade grip in D2 and I put it to the sharpmaker (clean stones)and in no time at all it was hair popping sharp, but when I sharpen my CPM S30v spydies, it seems to take much longer. Is this a symptom of the steels or each company's heat treat of the steal? I was always under the impression that D2 is more of a pain to sharpen than S30V.
 
KNaB said:
A bit off topic, but kind of not. I don't have much experience with D2 let alone benchmade D2. The only benchmade I've ever owned was a mini-grip in 154cm, and I gave it away because benchmade just doesn't do it for me. It felt "cheap" to me,but anyway, a co-worker had a benchmade grip in D2 and I put it to the sharpmaker (clean stones)and in no time at all it was hair popping sharp, but when I sharpen my CPM S30v spydies, it seems to take much longer. Is this a symptom of the steels or each company's heat treat of the steal? I was always under the impression that D2 is more of a pain to sharpen than S30V.
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I beleive that S30V is more wear resistant than D2. Also sharpening time depends on thickness of blade behind the edge, you can check this as well.

RevDevil said:
It's all about the HT. Spyderco owns the HT on CPM-S30V.
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Can you, please clarify what exactly do you mean. And if possible the source of information?
 
Thanks. I think he meant that spyderco nails the heat treat and does it perfectly.
 
The Medium stones are around 600 grit or so on the Sharpmaker so they really need something in the 120 to 220 grit range.
 
you can wrap sandpaper around your brown stones in whatever grit you wish. I saw a picture another forum member posted (sorry don't remember who) and it works really well.
 
If you want something that works faster you can always get the diamonds.

Or if you are doing rough re-profiling just use a $10 utility stone freehand.
 
Joshua J. said:
If you want something that works faster you can always get the diamonds.

Or if you are doing rough re-profiling just use a $10 utility stone freehand.
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The diamond rods don't cut that fast. ;)
 
KNaB said:
Thanks. I think he meant that spyderco nails the heat treat and does it perfectly.
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To tell the truth, I am not sure and never heard from Spyderco that they heat-treat in house. Many manufacturing companies use outside services for heat treatment.
Also, regarding wear resistance. S30V about 30-40% more wear resistant than D2, see attached file below.

Ankerson said:
The Medium stones are around 600 grit or so on the Sharpmaker so they really need something in the 120 to 220 grit range.
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I would love to see that
 
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bh49 said:
I beleive that S30V is more wear resistant than D2. Also sharpening time depends on thickness of blade behind the edge, you can check this as well.



Can you, please clarify what exactly do you mean. And if possible the source of information?
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Time after time, maker after maker, and user after user (based on their own real world experience) have come up with the conclusion that the HT (Heat Treat) is the key to a great blade steel this is in addition to the steel itself. That is exactly what I mean. The source of information are the various forum members that have posted here and at Spyderco Forums. ;)
KNaB said:
Thanks. I think he meant that spyderco nails the heat treat and does it perfectly.
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You are correct Sir. The CPM-M4 of the Gayle Bradley is awesome, completely won me over after 7 months of use thus far. Compared to the M4 steel of other knives, there is no comparison. The S30V used is no slouch either. Since the steel all comes from the same place, it must be the heat treat that makes it what it is. Seems pretty linear.
 
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