Why the coating ???

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polskiogorki

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Because I'm new I have to ask, why put the coating on a nice infi blade especially when there is such a big strip club.
I understand maybe a little more work in the busse production shop which means a little more cash but when people are already big bucks for these knifes why not make them all satin??
I'm thinking just raise the peice 50-75 per blade and then people wouldn't have to spend the time or money to strip the coating off.
I just bought an axe hammer and plan to join the strip club for the first time which is why I have the question !
 
They used to offer competition finish instead of a coating. I miss that. Satin takes a lot of time and effort and is therefore saved for LE versions.
 
Scenario 1: 1000 man-hours to produce 100 satin blades at $600/each.

Scenario 2: 1000 man-hours to produce 400 coated blades at $400/each.

Like every thing else in the universe, the answer is: do the math ;)
 
I still think bead blasting them would be the most cost effective finish to put on them. A bare blade with no handles on it to be carefull around would take a few minutes.
 
Dr. Lecter said:
Scenario 1: 1000 man-hours to produce 100 satin blades at $600/each.

Scenario 2: 1000 man-hours to produce 400 coated blades at $400/each.

Like every thing else in the universe, the answer is: do the math ;)
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You Don't work there, You don't know the math.
 
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clampdaddy said:
I still think bead blasting them would be the most cost effective finish to put on them. A bare blade with no handles on it to be carefull around would take a few minutes.
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I agree with you and mr wrong
I got my sob with the competition finish this week and it's really growing on me.
 
Competition Finish is by far my favorite, I prefer it to satin...

The Busse BIG finish seemed to be Jerry's answer to a "poor-man's satin"---

a sort of Scenario 1.5 to Dr. Lecter's very concise breakdown in post #5...

I really thought BIG would take off...I'm still hoping it will make a return engagement SOON!!!!
 
You guys have it all wrong! Coated blades are offered so you can color coordinate with your favorite outfits o_O;)
 
I don't mind the coatings on the larger blades but to me they are a pain on the smaller ones cuz they hinder a smooth cut. Not a problem when I'm chopping something or batoning but just cutting with a smaller blade the coatings are counter productive seems like.
 
Well, I have sold my wife on some of my Busse purchases by leveraging her philosophy of 'I need a new bag to match this dress'.

She can't really argue when I use the excuse, "I need one with a green blade to match this rucksack".

It's no joke!
 
foxyrick said:
Well, I have sold my wife on some of my Busse purchases by leveraging her philosophy of 'I need a new bag to match this dress'.

She can't really argue when I use the excuse, "I need one with a green blade to match this rucksack".

It's no joke!
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Hahaha oh man this is hilarious lol I'm using it Rick.
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
Competition Finish is by far my favorite, I prefer it to satin...

The Busse BIG finish seemed to be Jerry's answer to a "poor-man's satin"---

a sort of Scenario 1.5 to Dr. Lecter's very concise breakdown in post #5...

I really thought BIG would take off...I'm still hoping it will make a return engagement SOON!!!!
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I'm with Petey on this one. I have one knife in B.I.G. Finish and I would buy this finish on any blade Jerry offered it on!!!
Its shiny but a bit rough and I love it!!
 
I've never had one but I also love the looks of the B.I.G. finish. Pretty much the look I try to go for when I strip, blast and rub down my own knives. Bare infi, surface milled past the pits, no squiggly grinder marks.....I'd pick that option every time.
 
I had only ever had Satin before OP2W, I went on a feeding frenzy and order a LOT of blades, and sold every coated blade except for the AK. OP2W taught me that Satin is where my Busse love is at
 
Don't drop it. said:
You Don't work there, You don't know the math.
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And if I had said or in any way implied those were actual numbers, rather than purely hypothetical ones, you'd have a point. I didn't; you don't. What Busse does or doesn't make on a blade, puts into a blade, or anything else internal isn't any of my business. But the fact of the matter is that they only have so many man-hours available to them and making a satin knife takes significantly more man-hours than making a coated knife.

Regardless of pricing/costs for each type, they can get more coated blades out the door with the same number of man-hours. So it makes sense to do mostly coated blades if for no other reason than it gets more Busse steel into more hands. I also strongly suspect that the price jump between coated and satin doesn't really take into account the difference in opportunity cost -- i.e., not just how much costlier it is to create a satin blade than to create a coated blade, but all the additional coated blades that could be created but for the time spent creating that one satin blade - and customers would likely be surprised by how big of a price jump would be necessary to cover that spread. So it'd make sense for that reason, too.
 
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It really is a pure mathematical function on the surface ...only so many hours in a day type thing...

A bit more complicated if you factor in breakage/service/repair/upkeep on machinery and manufacturing consumables and the like.

And it gets even fuzzier if you consider the difference in wear & tear on your human capital, to boot.

I find myself wondering about the effects of OP2W on the "soft targets" in Wauseon...???

has it decimated the ranks? :eek:
--or has it increased efficiency thru experience / skill and team dynamics? like tempering INFI...:cool:

I find it fascinating to consider these type of things...
 
as an aside, I'm a big fan of the Comp. Finish! I unfortunately wasn't around when it was offered though. I saw examples here, and bought my 1st comp. s.o.b. from the Exchange. Since then, I bought 4 more--my most recent one was tonight from knifehunter. Can't wait! I don't have any of the bigger Busses in comp. yet (unless you count a stripped and sanded/polished SHe2)
I have seen some great B.I.G. Finish examples too--the TGLB being one of my favorites; would love to own some B.I.G. stuff.
 
Bring back the comp finish! Even if it takes a waiver! It would save me from stripping every knife I get!
 
I think Jerry's mind is made up...Satin on SE & LE when advertised for sale. Coated on Combat Grade no more competition finish. The early days when Busse Combat Knives were out of reach for the general public they produced a small number of Comp Finish knives mostly by request for those that were going to beat them mercilessly. As more people became aware of their superiority the orders came in. Those not familiar with the ugly duckling comp finish were shopping by the lesser price of unfinished INFI ONLY. The Demise was linked to customer complaints and returns for rework which made it no longer a viable lesser dollar alternative to what we see today. If you want Satin you buy when available or you strip 'em.
 
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