Why the newcomers 2nd or 3rd knife is better then the old timers 10th or 15th knife

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I've seen alot of new makers showing their first and second knife and people are amazed and old timers say things like "Second knife?!? That's better then my 10th!". There is a reason for that!! Its you!!!! So many old timers and experienced bladesmith/knifemakers sharing details and showing how to do things. All the WIP threads and pros answering all the noob questions. It helps us beginners SOOO much. It gives us the info and tools to turn out a good knife an help speed up the learning curve. As a new maker I spend almost as much time reading forums and WIP etc to see how to do things right as i spend in the shop actually making knives. So many mistakes have been avoided because of great people warning and showing how to properly do things! I'm amazed at the brotherhood most knifemakers and bladesmith have.

In short I guess this thread comes to this

Thank you old timers!!! :p:thumbup:

Your humble internet student
W Bishop
 
Very Very true. Thanks guys I really appreciate all the hints and tips. I would be lost without your guidance and example
 
+1 again here, I would be no where near where I am if it was not for the great makers sharing their secrets with us.

Big thanks to you all :D.
 
here here!:thumbup:
 
See this is what I mean. Some trades people want to keep there secrets (chef recipes, tricks of the trade, etc etc) but us new makers owe so much to the wealth of information yall give us free!!
 
Well put!

Heck I just tried domed pins because of Nick/Lorien's thread. Paul Long has been a constant source of inspiration and information...
In fact I have yet to PM a maker with a question who hasn't gone well out of his way to give me long composed responses... taking time that I know is in very short supply to help out someone they don't even know.
And the collectors too. Offering advice, giving me the chance to make more by supporting my work with their hard earned...

I can honestly say that knife folks are the finest I've ever come across.

Thanks!!!!!
 
So very true, I have yet to meet a knifemaker who would not share their knowledge. It truly is a unique group. Thank you all.
 
Well said that man!:thumbup:

I've learnt loads of new things from some of the makers on here. I've emailed a few with (probably dumb) questions and have always had a very helpful responses.
I've also had help given to me without having to ask...I think that in itself shows the generosity of many makers on here.

Sometimes the most simple tricks can be the ones that help the most. Don't laugh, but I've recently revolutionised my use of wet and dry by sticking a piece of duck tape on the back.:o God knows why I'd never thought of it myself, but seeing that on Nick Wheeler/Lorien's thread has made my life so much easier!:rolleyes::D

I'm also planning on making a few jigs once I get the time....;)

I've still got a very long way to go if I want to become as good as the makers on here, but hey, every little helps!:thumbup::D

Cheers,

Ian
 
Great post. :thumbup: Guys who take the time to share their knowledge and their methods are a tremendous benefit to us all.

Roger
 
Love this thread!!!

I think I can consider myself a maker; did my first show this month and sold what I took plus orders.

I believe the only reason I did so well is the people who have answered my questions; those that have been there done that. I continue to buy knives from established makers to study and have as reference.

A huge THANK YOU to all you old guys! :D

David Sharp
Sharpwerks
 
Ha ha. When I first read the title I thought, "Uh-Oh" this is going to be bad. But this is very nice. Thank you. We are truly standing on the shoulders of giants.

-M
 
Ha ha. When I first read the title I thought, "Uh-Oh" this is going to be bad. But this is very nice. Thank you. We are truly standing on the shoulders of giants.

-M
LOL yeah im guilty. Meant it to sound like that but I really just wanted it to be a huge thank you thread.
 
Great thread. Old timers learn a lot from their mistakes but new makers learn from the mistakes of the old timers who are always willing to share info.
 
One of the best threads ever. Very well said , and thanks to all those that not only share knowledge online , but who also do demo's at shows , talk to new makers on the phone , and welcome new makers into their shops.
 
I've got one more from an ol' timer: "Learn from those who have gone before you because there isn't enough time to make all the mistakes yourself."

-M
 
As a new maker I definitely stand on the shoulders of giants. I would be lost without their help and guidance. Thank you, to all who have helped me.
 
This is a nice thread. I certainly don't consider myself one of the "old timers" (although my kids would disagree) but maybe a "tweener", full-time almost 11 years, now.

Blame the numbers. The sharing of knowledge and skills among the knife making community has always been incredible...like nothing I've ever seen. It continues today and there are a LOT more makers these days helping a LOT more makers!!

Blame the internet, too. When I wanted to learn something new, I had to read a book, call an old timer or drive 50 miles to Tim Hancock's (my hero) to get hands on help. Now, you can go on a forum and get a number of varying opinions in minutes.

Finally, blame the collectors. They have become very knowledgeable and savvy. Almost half the attendees at Travis Wuertz's hammer-in last month were collectors who just want to know more about how quality knives are made. My clients have made me a better knife maker. They encourage me to try new things I might not otherwise do and their faith in me gives me strength.

This post would be too long if I tried to thank all those who have helped me, but Tim Hancock (did I mention he's my hero?) and Stephen Rapp have been amazingly supportive.

Thank you, Mr. Bishop, for your observation and tribute to the old timers.
Cheers!
Moon
 
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