Why tip up ?

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Does the blade orientation in pocket actually matter ?
Or is it just a matter of having the clip at the back end being more comfortable in hand ? I've carried knives tip up and tip down, and the only difference I noticed was comfort in hand.
BTW I'm a lefty and prefer a right handed tip up pocket clip as it's more comfortable to have my fingers around the clip vs having it in the palm of my hand. orientation in pocket makes no difference to me either as I just naturally turn the knife when I take it out.
 
For me, it's as simple as ease of opening. I carry folders with flippers and when they are tip-up, the knife is already in the position to open it. Tip-down would just mean one more movement after taking it out of my pocket before I could use the flipper. Not a big deal, just a preference.
 
It's all about preference really. Some people will say how "x" is superior and their way is better. While anyone who carries "y" way is a blazing simpleton.

Now, that being said. I hope you use knives with a strong detent. Cuz If you ever shove your hand in your pocket after that blade has come loose..... It isn't going to be pretty.:eek:
 
For me, it's as simple as ease of opening. I carry folders with flippers and when they are tip-up, the knife is already in the position to open it. Tip-down would just mean one more movement after taking it out of my pocket before I could use the flipper. Not a big deal, just a preference.

+1 exactly

Could care less about the whole which is safer/better/sexier/manlier jazz.
 
Does the blade orientation in pocket actually matter ?
Or is it just a matter of having the clip at the back end being more comfortable in hand ? I've carried knives tip up and tip down, and the only difference I noticed was comfort in hand.
BTW I'm a lefty and prefer a right handed tip up pocket clip as it's more comfortable to have my fingers around the clip vs having it in the palm of my hand. orientation in pocket makes no difference to me either as I just naturally turn the knife when I take it out.

This has been discussed quite a bit, you can use the BF search function to find threads on the topic. It is mostly personal preferences, but here are a couple quick points you may read:
1) Tip-up puts the spine against the seam of the front pocket, preventing accidental opening of most modern folders which may have weak detents or, very common now-a-days, flippers and/or assisted-opening springs.
2) The spine of the handle is usually more comfortable for my hand to pass across when reaching past the knife for other items, vs running it along the spine of a blade.
3) Some knife handles have a "birds beak" at the end, which can catch on things in the pocket in tip-down carry.
4) coins/keys/etc. can become lodged between the blade and scales in tip-up carry due to the open-face of the handle facing inward ratehr than against the seam of the pocket - this too can lead to accidental opening.
5) When I reach into my pocket for my knife, I usually actually insert my thumb and index finger into the pocket itself. When i draw out the knife, I can immediately flip or flick open most modern folders without having to re-position my hand or rotate the knife.

FWIW, I am currently carrying a Gerber Order in my front pocket, a knife that can only be carried tip-down.
 
For me, it's as simple as ease of opening. I carry folders with flippers and when they are tip-up, the knife is already in the position to open it. Tip-down would just mean one more movement after taking it out of my pocket before I could use the flipper. Not a big deal, just a preference.

+2

Also, with right side carry at least, the blade is in the back of my pocket which I like better.
 
There are some good safety arguments to be made about tip up being better as the spine rests against the seam of your pocket. I mostly just find it more convenient for opening as well as more comfortable to grab things in my same pocket.
 
I have almost exclusively switched to tip up carry. It is just more comfortable for me, & more natural for opening. I don't feel there is anything wrong with tip down, just not my preference.
 
I'm guessing if you made a poll it would 9/10 favoring tip up carry. Myself included.


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Safety first. Speed of deployment is a factor for me aswell and I actually appreciate how some of spyderco knives are not so deep carry and that let's you take them out and put back more conveniently
 
For me, it's as simple as ease of opening. I carry folders with flippers and when they are tip-up, the knife is already in the position to open it. Tip-down would just mean one more movement after taking it out of my pocket before I could use the flipper. Not a big deal, just a preference.

Nothing more to say.
 
I'm a lefty and prefer to carry this way. Right hand tip up pocket clip. Mostly developed this habit because too many knives I liked came in that default position. It's a great position to wave knives from.

Tip down right handed knife in left pocket is terrible. Then the blade's spine is against your palm.

For right hand I feel the arguement of tip up vs down is largely based on how you first grip your knife, overhand vs underhand.
 
I should mention that my preference for modern folders is one handed lockbacks, and I don't have to worry about a knife opening in my pocket.
I also don't carry other things besides a vic classic in the same pocket as my folder, because I wear cargo shorts in the summer or a have a jacket pocket to put things in in the winter.

These are some good points about safety and / or things getting in the way, and I'll definitely keep them in mind if I ever change preferences or carry habits.
 
Orientation does not matter to me. If I carry a folder dropped into my pocket it usually ends up laying tip up anyway. If I use the clip that's on most folders, I just use it the way the maker provides it, TU or TD. The only time I care about TU or TD is if I'm carrying IWB. In that case I carry TD because that's easier for me to reach and draw than having most of the knife buried behind my belt. Fortunately, that's how my Paras come and they're my only IWB carries.
 
For me, tip-down is aesthetically unpleasant, it impedes access to the pivot for tweaking/maintenance, and it can often be more of a hot spot than tip-up clips. The pivot can also mess with optimum placement of the clip (either causing the knife to ride too high or exacerbating the hot-spot problem).
 
Basically the simplest way to remove a folder from your pocket and open it.

It's already in the correct orientation to be opened without turning it around...

It's not about speed for me, more about the natural way that a knife should function when being removed from your pocket.
 
First caveats:
Most people carry right front pocket so common arguments are with respect to that method. Any other way you carry could work differently with different clip positions. Reading these threads over the years it seemed that half the people carried one way, the other half the other way. Then there was a poll and it came out something like 80% tip up.

The first clipped knives produced many years ago seemed to all be tip down, then Spyderco started making their knives with molded FRN handles and they had to be tip up to work. The popularity of these models seemed to sway most people to tip up.

If you carry a waved knife it has to be tip up to function. Or if you use a lanyard it has to be carried tip up to be useful.

People argue that it is safer to carry tip up. I have read as many or more people that sliced things carrying tip up as carrying tip down. Your knife can move around in your pocket and the seam of the pocket won't protect you anymore. If a person is scared of their knife opening in their pocket then they need a different knife, or carry your knife in a sheath.

I've carried both ways, for a long time. Tip down is significantly faster and safer for me. Granted when I carried a tiny knife it worked about equally well both ways. When I carry a real knife (meaning long knife) it only works tip down. People continually ask for a Spyderco Military tip up, that thing would take you 5 minutes to open.

I searched youtube one time for how to open knives carried tip up. Most of the videos seemed to use slight of hand to prove that tip up worked. The only person I found that seemed to operate the knife normally and make it work tip up was wearing pajamas in the video. I never wear pajamas, even at home, so this didn't apply to me. I wear jeans that are usually pretty tight and nothing goes into my pocket past the knife except the tip of my thumb. All I can grab of the knife is the end that is sticking out. So it seems to me that to make a tip up knife work you need a tiny knife carried in pajamas.

And of course YMMV.

Basically the simplest way to remove a folder from your pocket and open it.
It's already in the correct orientation to be opened without turning it around...
It's not about speed for me, more about the natural way that a knife should function when being removed from your pocket.

My knives seem to be split evenly between tip up and tip down. Tip up is totally backwards for me. When I pull the knife out it is in the wrong direction for opening, I have to toss it up in the air and catch it after it has rotated a half turn, then I can open it. When I pull a tip down knife out it is in the correct orientation, with the tip of my thumb right on the thumbstud or thumb hole. I tried putting a Military in my pocket and held it where it would be if it was tip up and then I pulled it out. The tip of my thumb was 3" from the thumb hole. No easy way to open the knife from there. I had my daughter take step by step photos of my drawing both ways so I could post them in these threads and I never did, now I have to try to find them.
 
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