Wicked Edge??

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Been looking at this system, but curious, How well do they work on pocket knives. I typically use a muskrat design, and the blades aren't very tall(Schrade 77OT, Queen 66?). The videos I have seen, they show large blade 6"+, none with a 3-4" blade.
 
I use mine on all my Spyderco's. I sharpen a Caly3 regularly with no problems. Put a new edge on my XM-18 with no effort. The Wicked Edge is a very good system. I have mine set at 18* per side on said knives.
 
Been looking at this system, but curious, How well do they work on pocket knives. I typically use a muskrat design, and the blades aren't very tall(Schrade 77OT, Queen 66?). The videos I have seen, they show large blade 6"+, none with a 3-4" blade.

Length isn't an issue. The constraint would be on the angle depending on the blade width. Without knowing the exact width of those blades I can't say with certainty the minimum angle you can achieve, but if you care to measure them and post the dimensions, I'd be happy to calculate it for you. My guess is that you can get to around 18°.
 
Any clamped system will be constrained at low angles with narrow blades (measured from spine to edge), due to the edge of the clamp getting in the way.

I don't have the WE, but I've found (with my Lansky/GATCO) that using a slightly higher angle won't hurt performance much with smaller, narrower blades, like your muskrat's clip blades. Such blades are also thinner (usually) and very often hollow-ground too. That thin blade geometry goes a long way in cutting performance, especially if the edge has a clean, sharp, symmetrical and uniform bevel on it. And I'm sure the WE can do that much, at least.

I wouldn't worry too much about the low angle constraint, for your knife. Just go as low as the clamp will allow, and focus on making that bevel as clean, sharp and pure as you can make it. That'll accomplish a lot, in itself.
 
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I have a WE and sharpen fixed blades out to 12 inches all the way down to small folders. This this is the cats meow and does a fantastic job on everything I have put on it.
 
Length isn't an issue. The constraint would be on the angle depending on the blade width. Without knowing the exact width of those blades I can't say with certainty the minimum angle you can achieve, but if you care to measure them and post the dimensions, I'd be happy to calculate it for you. My guess is that you can get to around 18°.

I took the calipers to the blade of my Queen 66, measures .416", from the edge to the spine or so, kinda tapers .
 
oh yea...not a worry there....this thing works enough that I retired my APEX, Lansky, Sharpmaker and the rest of the sharpening things I have in my shop.
 
I understand the thinking behind a lower angle for sharpness(usually in kitchen knives) but the edge retention will suffer.....I prefer a higher angle bevel as a pocket knife is used for daily tasks that a kitchen knife (lower angle) is not accustomed to handling. Plus I can still get a hair popping edge with a higher angle on the WE.
 
I used to believe that it was a given, that edge retention would diminish if I sharpened my pocketknives to an acute angle. But, I've noticed a rather interesting benefit to doing so. Since my pocketknives have been sharpened to near scalpel-like edges, I tend to treat them with a little more respect, in how I use them. No need to 'lean into' a cut any more, no more temptation to use it as a screwdriver/prybar. Virtually all tasks I use it for, can be done with almost feather-light effort. As a result, these acute edges have held up quite nicely. And an acute edge on a blade is very easy to maintain (much easier to 'feel' the relatively wide bevel on a strop).
 
I used to believe that it was a given, that edge retention would diminish if I sharpened my pocketknives to an acute angle. But, I've noticed a rather interesting benefit to doing so. Since my pocketknives have been sharpened to near scalpel-like edges, I tend to treat them with a little more respect, in how I use them. No need to 'lean into' a cut any more, no more temptation to use it as a screwdriver/prybar. Virtually all tasks I use it for, can be done with almost feather-light effort. As a result, these acute edges have held up quite nicely. And an acute edge on a blade is very easy to maintain (much easier to 'feel' the relatively wide bevel on a strop).

hehehe...a "psychologically sharp knife".
 
I took the calipers to the blade of my Queen 66, measures .416", from the edge to the spine or so, kinda tapers .

I did some calculations and came up with the following: If you set the blade approximately 1.5mm into the clamp, you could get to 15°. I don't know the exact distance from of the thumb groove to the spine of the blade but it should be about right to serve as an index point. The diagram shows a blade .416" in the clamp.

Queen+66+minimum+angle_1.jpg
 
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