Wide-ish bevel from CRK

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Got my small regular back from a spa treatment the other day. Knife looks great but I noticed that the bevel is quite a bit wider than what i'm used to seeing from a factory edge, like it was sharpened a slightly lower angle than normal. Has anyone else had a similar experience??
 

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If you like a steeper angle, that looks really nice. Bet it goes through paper like nothing. Certainly not the standard we see from CRK, so agree it is unusual
 
It is very sharp, slices phonebook paper like nothin'. But it looks a little... Different.
 
It also appears to have a small amount of recurve near the heel of the blade (which is very odd from CRK).

It is possible that they took the shoulders up high but, because they typically convex the edge, the apex is still not as shallow as we might assume. Depending on how you use the knife, this could be a great (or horrible) thing. I think I would call them and discuss it. It really seems un-characteristic of the CRK edges I have seen.
 
Yes, it happened to one of mine, a damascus Regular. The real kicker is that it was only like that on one side !
I called CRK to complain, Chris called me back. He told me that it's all done by hand and that sometimes it happens. When I expressed how unhappy I was because it was irreplaceable and obviously out of production he told me " it is what it is Mate ". My other experiences with their customer service have been stellar but that one still bothers me when I'm reminded of it.

I don't care for a "wide" edge on a knife but as long as it's even and symmetrical I could live with it. If it was uneven I'd be making that phone call again- if only to get the boss to speak with whoever sharpens the blades for the spa treatments to remind them how that detail so greatly represents the totality of his product and service.
 
Here's the other side. Looks a little uneven.
 

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I wouldn't be happy with it, I've seen much better from CR. I like my edges much tighter.
 
I feel like they may have made a mistake on the first pass (too low) and then changed the angle. I can see what appears to be a double bevel, like it was ground at one angle, adjusted, then ground again. Pics don't pick it up, it's very subtle. I don't want to have to send it back and be without it for another 2-3 weeks.
 
That is an unusually high bevel for sure. Your knife also looks well sharpened though, there is very little belly left on that blade. It may be that they just had to raise the bevel to get the standard angle. I can't say it looks like a "good" sharpening job either way though so it could easily be a mistake in sharpening.

I know one of the reasons that CRK use a hollow grind over a flat grind is the fact that as you sharpen a knife and move up through the blade there is less meat there behind the edge so the overall blade geometry is kept pretty much the same through most of the life of your blade. That means one would expect not to see a very high bevel on their knife untill one has worn well into the body of the blade. Infact I think most people would have the blade replaced before it even got to that stage. :)
 
Don't worry about it, a higher bevel let's it slice better.

I usually put a higher bevel on my users for that very reason. Only possible draw back is if you use the knife for particularly hard use in which case a thinner edge might not be the best way to go.

......I like a sharp knife as opposed to a folding chisel. :D

Edit to add that maybe you should even booth sides out.
 
I have one older sebenza like that, it happens sometimes! With that being said, the bevil is usually much smaller on a crk knife. At least it is fully apexed and sharp:)
 
I also received one back like that

I probably should add that this is just a comment, not a complaint
 
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You paid good money for spa-treatment and received poor sharpening, that's fact. But at least it was done by people from CRK ... shit happens from time to time.
 
It's a good reason to sharpen by hand and I mean do not use a grinder.

I've had knives sharpened by custom makers and two of them hogged off more metal than I liked. Both of them were well experienced full time makers and one is a master smith of great renown on this forum. When I mentioned, gently, to the master smith that you could tell it had been resharpened due to the amount of metal removed (and the slight recurve by the choil) he basically told me that he removed the smallest amount of metal possible and implied I was too picky.

I sharpen and reprofile myself now, takes more time, but I have time.
 
brownshoe said:
It's a good reason to sharpen by hand and I mean do not use a grinder.

I've had knives sharpened by custom makers and two of them hogged off more metal than I liked. Both of them were well experienced full time makers and one is a master smith of great renown on this forum. When I mentioned, gently, to the master smith that you could tell it had been resharpened due to the amount of metal removed (and the slight recurve by the choil) he basically told me that he removed the smallest amount of metal possible and implied I was too picky.

I sharpen and reprofile myself now, takes more time, but I have time.
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I do my own freehand sharpening as well. I had to send the knife in to have some other issues addressed and figured, what the hell, why not have the edge set back to factory by CRK. Oh well ...
 
1AbominAble1 said:
Yes, it happened to one of mine, a damascus Regular. The real kicker is that it was only like that on one side !
I called CRK to complain, Chris called me back. He told me that it's all done by hand and that sometimes it happens. When I expressed how unhappy I was because it was irreplaceable and obviously out of production he told me " it is what it is Mate.
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I'd be really pixxed if I got an' it is what it is Mate' answer from Chris. CRK is know for it's stellar service. IMO CRK screwed

up a blade that can't be replaced. That kind of service should get a Lot More of answer than 'it is what it is Mate'. No apology at all.......:thum:rolleyes:
 
MANY of the Large Regulars that I have, have a far wider bevel than what CRK does today. I do not know when they changed, but can easily say with certainty that it did change. In my experience, it was more on the older regulars rather than the newer ones made before they were discontinued. I could show you several examples. Since this was a regular, I am sure a spa/resharpen will liken to the higher bevel used back in the day. In my opinion, this is perfectly normal.
 
clockman said:
I'd be really pixxed if I got an' it is what it is Mate' answer from Chris. CRK is know for it's stellar service. IMO CRK screwed

up a blade that can't be replaced. That kind of service should get a Lot More of answer than 'it is what it is Mate'. No apology at all.......:thum:rolleyes:
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No, there was definitely no apology. If anything the man was put off by my being upset about it as he told me several times that it wouldn't affect the value and that, in short, I should just deal with it.
I'm not here to start a bash CRK thread, this was all stated previously in the spa service/ customer service/ long wait threads. CRK is still by far my favorite knife company and I thoroughly believe that they make the best production knives.
I was letting the O.P. know that it happens and what my experience was when I called to complain about it.
 
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