Wilkinson Sword re-release the F-S fighting knife

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They made the first ever version of what is aruguably the most famous dagger of the last century, and now they're making exact reproductions of the first and third (current) patterns (although they only ever made the fist pattern version), with the usual Wilkinson etchings as well as a "royal" version.

An original Wilkinson Sword F-S knife is nigh-on impossible to come across, so these new repros are the closest you can actually get.

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Also on the same site they're selling Joseph Rogers 3rd Pattern blackened F-S knives (as used by over 40 special forces groups over the world, including SAS, SBS, Commandos, all the way up to the Gulf War and probably in Afghanistan), I own one of these and without a doubt it's the pinnacle of latter-day daggers. A completely usualess knife if you want a dress knife or a utility knife, but the best CQC killing tool available.

Danny
 
Sounds good! Thanks for the heads up!

Short Goth? Welsh too eh? :D
 
I sent them an email for a price request on their F-S knives. I already have a J. Nowell & Sons black version and I'd like a first pattern (with large S-curved guard) to use for a crossed knives display plaque. Their black third pattern is about 47 pounds and I have no idea what the conversion is nowadays. My guess is one pound is at least $2.00. I only paid around $40.00 for my current one with sew-on sheath.

Karl
 
THIS is it:-) I'm in LOVE:-) The finest fighting knife EVER made - being reproduced by a company that has made some of the best blades I have ever owned:-) YE HAR!:-) (I have some antique (numbered) Wilkinson military swords - they are *really* something...)

W E Fairbairn would be proud I think:-) I can feel the urge to get out that credit card and do something (as usual) that the missus will never understand:-) (Its not the BUYING she doesn't understand - but the NEED a man has for nice bladeware:-)

HAVE to have one (or more of these:-) One of my uncles carried one in Korea (one of the first British guys in) and put it to good use more than once:-) He swore by it...

Johnno down under...
 
safety guy

According to this site its aout 1.50USD to the British Pound.

Makes it about $68.00.

Guess I'll have to look at them now.
 
They have the prices on the above link now. They range between £207.95 and £279.95. The last pattern 1 I saw for sale was £400, but even so... I guess I won't be getting one just yet.

I talked to the guy behind the web site though and found the British Knife Collectors Guild is only about a year old. It's great that interest in our mania is increasing!

Kallisti.
 
Originally posted by Kallisti
I talked to the guy behind the web site though and found the British Knife Collectors Guild is only about a year old. It's great that interest in our mania is increasing!

Kallisti. [/B]
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Now that is some great news!:cool: You have to hope that in time they could gain some political influence or at least raise the issue of arbitrary laws prohibiting objects. It would be interesting to see if rights could be gained on the other side of the pond while ours are slowly eroding. Maybe the trend could be reversed.

There I go dreaming again :D
 
I don't know if there's anyone or any organisation who could ever get enough political influence or support to give us some workable knife laws, but I'll show my support by blitzing my credit card at the end of the month.

Always wanted to own a first pattern F-S.
 
I wonder if they would make a blackened first pattern? I'm strictly utilitarian in my tastes...and finances!

I may get the black Roger's version, to go with my cheapie. About 70 bucks ain't impossible, though it ain't great for something I'll just display on the wall and handle now and then!

Now considering the shortcomings of the F-S design, wasn't there a propensity for breakage at the hilt, and a weak tip? I think they solved the first problem, but the second is probably just a limitation of the design, and on the positive side, helps make it a great "stabber."

The A-F supposedly "solved" these drawbacks, but I am aware that it's development may not have included as much of Fairbairn's influence as some think.

Karl
 
Now considering the shortcomings of the F-S design, wasn't there a propensity for breakage at the hilt, and a weak tip?
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Only when mis-used. Breakage at the hilt would happen when it was used try try to chop things/lever things, and breakage at the tip would happen again either with levering, or a few times in action/testing on bodies when they'd try to ram the knife through the ribs. Anything other than thrusting through the side of the neck or lower torso (kidney target" is mis-use of an F-S dagger.

That's why when us civvies buy them, they sit on a shelf looking great, they're only designed as a killing weapon, specifically sentry removal. Although I admit I sleep with one (called "Ki", nothing to do with the Eastern principles of mystical energy/life force, merely a coincidence) close to hand. If someone ever breaks in to my house, I'll call it justified to use whatever force would be necessary.
 
Originally posted by Safety Guy
About 70 bucks ain't impossible, though it ain't great for something I'll just display on the wall and handle now and then!
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Yeah, unfortunately, it won't be for this knife, either. £207.95 * 1.5 for US $ comes out to $311.90. Wish it were only $70...

-- PG
 
ParaGlock, I was talking about the "Roger's" blackened version, which is apparently still an issue item for some countries' specops. It is on a separate page in their catalog. They're asking about 47 pounds for it, which computes to around 70 bucks.

Those who want a black wallhanger can get the J. Nowell & Sons Mfg. "Sheffield" version for just under $40 here at 1SKS. Choice of sew-on or belt sheath, and it's a couple bucks cheaper than what I paid for mine. Decent enough quality, from what I can tell, though I ain't run no Nazi sentries through with it yet. :)

I'm thinking of buying another, clamping each end of the guard in a padded vise and doing a little bending to "turn it into" a pseudo 1st pattern S curve. :)

Anybody know about J. Nowell & Sons history? How long have they been making these, and are any issued to troops?

Karl
 
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