Winter Preparedness & Food For Thought

Mistwalker

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Well...thanks to some long overdue oral surgeries, some illnesses, and an epidemic of vehicle repair I haven't been around as much lately as I would like. The wife recently taking on a job that involves an hour long commute in darkness both ways, found me in thought and putting together a vehicle kit for her to help keep her safe. In doing so I found myself inspired to write a new blog post for the website to offer a little food for thought. I thought I would share that here as well.

http://www.fiddlebackforge.com/index.cfm/fiddleback-news-information/winter-preparedness/
 
Best article you've done yet B. I really appreciated it. The intro was perfect. I like the idea of a space blanket and handwarmer for producing and trapping heat= genius.


A while ago, I put together a small kit in each vehicle with many of the items you mentioned. However, the one problem I run into with Illinois' cold winters is freezing water bottles. For my wife, I put a candle and metal cup in her kit to melt ice/snow and/or be a small heat source. Any tips?
 
Best article you've done yet B. I really appreciated it. The intro was perfect. I like the idea of a space blanket and handwarmer for producing and trapping heat= genius.


A while ago, I put together a small kit in each vehicle with many of the items you mentioned. However, the one problem I run into with Illinois' cold winters is freezing water bottles. For my wife, I put a candle and metal cup in her kit to melt ice/snow and/or be a small heat source. Any tips?

Thanks Scmittie. Actually yes, some extra hot hands or foot warmers can keep the water from freezing, or can thaw it back out if trapped in a soft sided cooler with the frozen water bottles. If the bottles are left in the vehicle overnight and freeze, putting them in the floorboard with the heater blowing on them can thaw them back out as well. Maybe an insulated military two quart canteen with insulated carrier would be a good idea. Easy to take out of the car at the end of the day and put back in the morning. And if forgotten one of the 6 hour footwarmers activated and shoved into the carrier with it would likely thaw it fairly quickly.
 
Best article you've done yet B. I really appreciated it. The intro was perfect. I like the idea of a space blanket and handwarmer for producing and trapping heat= genius.

New years day might not have been the best time to post this one, but I was just thinking about last January....
 
That is a great read.
I know several folks that got stranded last year. I put together a Winter Kit for my wife. I didnt include hand/foot warmers but i think i just might go get some for her tomorrow.
Thanks Brian
 
Thanks for the post Brian. We keep a kit in the cars but I hadn't thought of the warmers either for thawing out the frozen water bottles. Good stuff.
 
This is another great blog post Brian. I like the urban perspective that applies to more situations than the ultralight minimalist backpacker scenario that most people write about. Beside the addition of hand warmers that others have commented on, I appreciate your reasoning for including a mirrored compass. Good stuff all the way around.

Thanks and Happy New Year!

Phil
 
Great write up Mist! I need to do the same for my wife she has a 30 min commute one way and in her line of work she has to go in come hell or high water! My Granny was an OG prepper she always told us growing up to make sure in the winter that we have spare jackets and blankets in the truck when we went out cause as she said you never now when something bad might happen. Maybe we could all show of the bags we have made up for our spouses!
 
That is a great read.
I know several folks that got stranded last year. I put together a Winter Kit for my wife. I didnt include hand/foot warmers but i think i just might go get some for her tomorrow.
Thanks Brian

Thanks Phillip, I am not used to my wife being on someone else's time clock. I have always kept a small kit in her car but needed to expand it now.

Great article Brian, thank you.

Thank you sir, glad you enjoyed the post!

Thanks for the post Brian. We keep a kit in the cars but I hadn't thought of the warmers either for thawing out the frozen water bottles. Good stuff.

Thank you Nathan. Yes I noticed when I was up north that almost everyone had an emergency winter kit in their vehicles. I certainly put a couple together for us.


This is another great blog post Brian. I like the urban perspective that applies to more situations than the ultralight minimalist backpacker scenario that most people write about. Beside the addition of hand warmers that others have commented on, I appreciate your reasoning for including a mirrored compass. Good stuff all the way around.

Thanks and Happy New Year!

Phil

Thank you Phil. I think people are quicker to think of survival situations happening on foot in the middle of nowhere than they are to think of them occurring in a vehicle in a large city. Yet the fact remains that we all spend much more of our time in urban environments than we do in wilderness environments. So odds are that if and when things go wrong, there is a better chance of it happening in the areas we frequent the most.


Great write up Mist! I need to do the same for my wife she has a 30 min commute one way and in her line of work she has to go in come hell or high water! My Granny was an OG prepper she always told us growing up to make sure in the winter that we have spare jackets and blankets in the truck when we went out cause as she said you never now when something bad might happen. Maybe we could all show of the bags we have made up for our spouses!

Thanks Adam. My wife had taken the last few year off of work to stay at home and raise our daughter. Though since she does travel around with that I had put a small kit in her car early on. But till now she was free to come and go as she pleased or not go at all if the weather was bad out. It was her choice. Now that she has to leave before sun up and comes home after sundown, and is on someone's time clock again I re-thought her kit and expanded it. I actually put more in her kit than I showed because her shift and my son-in-law's shift overlap most of the week and she has him with her all but two of her five workdays a week. He is a ggod kid, but has little to no experience with survival situations.






Regarding the hand / foot warmers, I have had some personal experiences with living rough and being caught out in the snow and extreme cold. I have experienced hypothermia myself, and I have seen the affects on others. I had severe frost bite and gangrene at age 17, a thousand miles from what had been home. So I had the experience of listening to two doctors, two complete strangers, standing there looking at my feet discussing which parts of my body they would most likely have to remove in order to save my life. It was a most unpleasant experience that had a profound impact o my life and I have spent a great deal of time studying ways to keep warm or get warm again. Cold weather injuries are not something that one should take lightly. They can be very bad, and they can be very scary. More than once while I was in Michigan I would come in tired and forget my pack in the truck and my water would be frozen, so since I always kept the hand warmers in my kit, I have used them to thaw my water bottle a couple of times to see how well they worked. I find the larger longer lasting ones better for all applications I have used them in.

As for the mirrored sighting compass, I have used mine more often for removing suicidal gnats and mosquitoes from my eyes in forests than I have for finding direction. So I have kept one in my kit for years as much for removing objects from my eyes as I have for the purposes of navigation. They cam also be used to signal for help, and the magnifying glass can be used for reading fine print if you are far sighted. Personally I prefer the larger mirror of the Suunto MC2G that I carry because I am a bit far sighted.

I am also putting a tow rope in her car because before I switched to 4x4 vehicles years ago, I was told more than once by someone that they would pull me out of my predicament if they had a tow rope, but they didn't. That was a large part of why I switched to 4x4 vehicles, because I am so often in the middle of nowhere or traveling on desolate roads.

It was crazy for me to be living in Michigan in the winter of 2013-2014 and out in a winter wonderland but seeing everything flow very smoothly because the people there were used to it, the terrain was relatively flat, and the roads were essentially straight lines in a grid pattern for the most part. Then to watch the news in horror as two inches of snow and ice turned a daily commute into a survival situation in Atlanta and I spent the next several hours getting in touch with friends and hoping the ones I couldn't get in touch with were ok. It just further illustrated to me that we just never know what may happen, or when so better to just be prepared with the basics one might need any time of the year. I am certain many who watched and / or lived through Katrina learned the same lesson.
 
26 degrees around Fiddleback Forge today. This post was well timed. Stay warm!

January is always a crazy time for weather in this region. It was cold up here on the mountain at 5:30 am that's for sure.
 
Great read! Lots of excellent advice. I've kept a kit in my car for a couple years now and thankfully haven't needed to use any of the items in a true emergency.

Being stuck in a car for even just a few hours can be brutal in subzero temps.

I think I need to add some more high calorie snacks to my kit.
 
Great read! Lots of excellent advice. I've kept a kit in my car for a couple years now and thankfully haven't needed to use any of the items in a true emergency.

Being stuck in a car for even just a few hours can be brutal in subzero temps.

I think I need to add some more high calorie snacks to my kit.

Thanks man, glad you liked the post. I have kept some small kit in my vehicle for as long as I have had a vehicle. It was something my father did when I was a kid.

Yes it really can be brutal, and painful, and when it stops hurting is when the trouble begins. Cold weather injuries are no laughing matter.

One thing I do like about the winter is the ability to add chocolate to the kit. So I go to a Cracker Barrel and eat and grab some of the big "Emergency Chocolate" bars in the white wrapper with the red cross and add them to my kit :D
 
Great blog post!

My wife and I are starting to do more day and overnight trips with our 3.5 year old. As the family "protector bear," I spent a good bit of time thinking about and building a car survival kit that would keep us alive if we were stranded overnight in northern AZ (or most anywhere else). One thing that I included but that you did not mention was a firearm. Although this can be a touchy subject, this was a very important aspect of the kit I created. YMMV, but in a survival situation people can become emotional and unpredictable, and a firearm can provide security in a way that a knife cannot.

Also, I included a portable power storage device. It is similar in size to an iPhone and provides about 7 battery charges. If your car battery dies and leaves you stranded, the ability to keep your phone running (almost) indefinitely could be significant.
 
Great blog post!

My wife and I are starting to do more day and overnight trips with our 3.5 year old. As the family "protector bear," I spent a good bit of time thinking about and building a car survival kit that would keep us alive if we were stranded overnight in northern AZ (or most anywhere else). One thing that I included but that you did not mention was a firearm. Although this can be a touchy subject, this was a very important aspect of the kit I created. YMMV, but in a survival situation people can become emotional and unpredictable, and a firearm can provide security in a way that a knife cannot.

Also, I included a portable power storage device. It is similar in size to an iPhone and provides about 7 battery charges. If your car battery dies and leaves you stranded, the ability to keep your phone running (almost) indefinitely could be significant.

Thanks man! Yeah, though I am almost never without a fire arm, the laws vary so much state to state and country to country that I am very hesitant to touch on the subject on that blog since FF has such a global market. I should have mentioned the battery charger though. I just ordered a Anker Powercore 20100 to test out. I have bought a couple for the wife in the past, but have been looking into better ones now that I am using my phone more and more daily.


PLB is nice to have in a car too.

I am looking at those, but a little pricey for me right now...
 
PLB is nice to have in a car too.

One thing I've been seriously considering even though they are pretty pricey is an InReach satellite messenger/gps. There are places I go that are hours drive from the nearest cell service let alone having to hike out.
 
I carry a bag of kitty litter for traction, one can get stuck on an icy patch as happens at the group mailboxes where the turn around is tight. Distances are long between homes in these parts, often I carry a shovel in addition to good vehicle maintenance and keeping the fuel level above half tank.
 
I have been frantically preparing for winter in the Philippines........just need some sunscreen and I'm sorted!



Looking forward to going home on saturday for a month :)
 
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