Wireless Speakers

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Looking to get some type of new sound system for the living room. At the moment I’m considering either a decent sound bar with wireless subwoofer or possibly an Apple HomePod. Maybe even a Sonos Playbar with satellite Sonos 1’s.

Whatever system I end up with, my intention is to use it for TV and movies and also has to have Bluetooth for streaming music. We have heavily bought into the Apple ecosystem so Airplay would be sweet.

So I’m looking for some feedback and recommendations from people who have a system similar to what I’m looking at. What do you like not like, what do you wish you had?
 
Since you are heavily into Apple, stick to Apple. Apple products work well together since they are all controlled by Apple.

I have Sonos and like it. Sonos concentrates on playing music from online streaming services. The Playbar and Playbase do have optical audio input jacks to connect to your TV so you can get TV sound or streaming music. Sonos will stream music from most services including Apple Music. Sonos does NOT use Bluetooth. It connects to the streaming service over your home WiFi. Use the Sonos app on your phone or tablet to select and play the music.
 
I'm in a somewhat similar situation, I have a very nice Yamaha Mini Receiver (internet capable with Bluetooth) with a pair of small JBL's. Coaxial input for TV (Samsung smart 4K), Optical cable for Blu Ray. I stream a few semi local radio stations that are out of my RX's FM range. In order to streamline my set up, I am thinking about a Sonos Beam (the living room is small) instead of the Yamaha that takes up space on the stand and floor (speakers). We don't need a subwoofer and the Beam has a dialogue enhancer that I think would be a nice addition. Having the Beam higher off the floor than the speakers would probably be helpful for our hearing as well. We don't listen at higher volumes as a rule. Obviously we would like to minimize our snake pit of cables, I have high speed cable internet so wireless speed is not an issue.
 
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Check the wirecutter reviews, as they are pretty good at keeping up to date with the supported features of each system. While its not yet a mature market, its stabilized enough that I doubt we will see a change from the current eco-system-per-brand, giving the best feature set, with Sonos being a bit of an outlier trying to support more than one brand.
Sonos does better for sound quality traditionally, but that comes at a cost. The rest are focused on different key features. Sonos is supposed to be getting Airplay support soon I think.
I'd prefer a brand agnostic standard, but I don't see that happening.

Really its going to come down to what your wallet decides, there is some really good stuff on the market but $$$ talks.
 
We are currently using a wired 5.1 channel Yamaha surround system, but we’d like to get rid of the stand it’s on and clean things up a little. Also, my wife thinks the system is too complicated so always blasts her music through the tv speakers, which is like a cheese grater on my brain.

I like the features of the Sonos Beam, but i think it would be inadequate for my space. And it seems like the Playbar is a little overpriced for the features it offers. Still keeping an open mind though. I will go check out the wirecutter reviews. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
Check the wirecutter reviews, as they are pretty good at keeping up to date with the supported features of each system. While its not yet a mature market, its stabilized enough that I doubt we will see a change from the current eco-system-per-brand, giving the best feature set, with Sonos being a bit of an outlier trying to support more than one brand.
Sonos does better for sound quality traditionally, but that comes at a cost. The rest are focused on different key features. Sonos is supposed to be getting Airplay support soon I think.
I'd prefer a brand agnostic standard, but I don't see that happening.

Really its going to come down to what your wallet decides, there is some really good stuff on the market but $$$ talks.

Sonos supposedly supports AirPlay 2 now, but my wireless router is an older Airport that doesn't offer it. I'm going to upgrade to the eero wifi router pretty soon. I have a lot of thinking to do.
 
I used to work for a stereo company who sold concert, auditorium, and recording studio speakers (assembly line work, QC tester for the bass signal processing equipment, and sometimes drove the van to pickup cabinets). There are a lot of specifics that different music enthusiasts focus on. It seems like most people just want something that "sounds nice", and don't want to go down the sonic fidelity rabbit hole. I've tried and used more immersive setups and less expensive, simple units. Each one has it's advantages and disadvantages.

IMO, a simple soundbar with a subwoofer should satisfy 95% of those that wish to have a "nice setup" for watching TV. The simpler the better, as most people don't like to crowd onto the same seat at an exact distance or orientation all the time, pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to listen to the radio from across the room, or dedicate too much space, power, or decor to accomadate a more professional setup. Additionally, this almost gaurantees a lower quality experience for others, e.g. when you have friends over in all different places to watch a movie, or even a family spreading out along a couch. My current setup is a low budget powered soundbar with a wireless powered subwoofer I got cheap on clearance. It's fine, not great, not lowsy. The downside is that I didn't check the input/output on my TV and so I can only hook it up through my DVD/Blu-Ray player (long story; fiber optic cable).

If it is a powered speaker setup, you can also just get a separate BT adapter to connect to your phone. Additionally, these BT adapters will often work with other, older, or less expensive shelf or component systems that have the correct input. They are usually pretty cheap too. Personally, I prefer the old component systems because I could upgrade or replace whatever part I wanted to at any time, and if one part went wrong I didn't have to replace the entire setup.

I think the most important for any decent setup, is to make sure the speakers playing the higher frequencies are aimed toward the listener. Most people think about left and right angles, but many don't think about up and down angles. Many really inexpensive stereos (including the 40 year old $10 ones at GoodWill) can sound a LOT better by simply aiming the high frequency drivers at the area where people will be seated... especially aiming them up towards the listeners if mounted on the ground.

If you are looking for a more connected experience, such as something to yell at to bring movies, weather, web pages, games etc onto your TV screen, then you will probably shell out more $$$ and have to look into compatible systems. Nothing wrong with that, but you are paying for an entertainment computer plus speakers, rather than just a sound upgrade for your phone or TV.
 
Incidentally, I happened to be in Best Buy today and talked to one of the geeks about my Apple HomePod idea and he said no way would it work. “It might work,” but is not what I wanted. I think a high quality soundbar and wireless sub is what I need.
 
Just another suggestion. If you are just looking for a sound upgrade, you might be happy and save a few bucks by just going with a shelf speaker setup. If the input and output is compatible, you could even get away with a powered computer speaker setup.

Just keep the stereo drivers close to the screen and equidistant to the listener... Again, aiming the tests at the listener including the up and down angle.
 
I’m sticking with what I have, but will be upgrading to smaller higher efficiency speakers. Hard to beat a component system for sound.
 
Hey, something I'm qualified to help with! I do tech support for a major consumer electronics retailer. Out of the three major wireless systems (Sonos, HEOS, MusicCast), HEOS sounds best, Sonos is for those more worried about appearance than performance, and MusicCast is a compromise between the two. I own components from all three systems, I use a HEOS system to listen to music and help keep myself sane at work, and at home I have both a Sonos speaker with Alexa built in, and a MusicCast speaker.

The HEOS and Sonos stuff is expensive, between the two HEOS is a clear winner. Sonos is a networking company that built a speaker, HEOS is a speaker company that added networking. Doesn't take a genius to figure out which of the two will sound better. The MusicCast stuff is a little cheaper, doesn't sound quite as good as the HEOS stuff, and doesn't look as nice as the Sonos stuff.

You really can't go wrong with any of the three, but if I had to pick one I'd say HEOS. Just stay away from anything Play-Fi it's crap.
 
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