Wood Or Horn

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What are the advantages, or disadvantages, of Horn vs. Wood handles?
Please excuse me if questions that I may ask appear stupid, but being new to this Forum, and Khukuris,the more info that I can receive here will definately help me in determing what my next, and future purchases will be.
 
Yikes. Prepare yourself for a flood of answers. This is an often-discussed topic, and one on which people are pretty evenly divided. Searching the forum will let you see what has been written about it before. I like both. In my opinion, horn tends to be a little more durable and is better in wet conditions. It also looks better straight from HI, at least in my opinion. A little Hooflex or lanolin and it shines right up. Wood, on the other hand, seems a bit more comfortable in the hand, and the Saatisal has wonderful grain. If you ask Ferguson nicely, he might post some pics of his Tru Oil finished handles. With a little elbow grease, you can get a wood handle that will take your breath away with its beauty. Of course, then munk will come along and tell you that the TruOil finish won't stay looking that nice if you use it, and he's right. I still think it's worth the effort though. Your best bet is to get one of each and see which one you like more.
 
I'm probably wrong, but I think one consideration is humidity:

Horn is better in damp conditions (and suffers in the ultra-arid/desert unless you take good care of it) and wood is the opposite.

With that said, if you take good care of them they will be okay wherever, and then it just comes down to aesthetics.

Best to have a mix of both just to be safe. ;) :D
 
I doubt you will be disapointed with wood, just because everyone has handled a wood handled knife at one time or other.

Some folks say the horn is slippery in their hand, others say it's grippier than wood.

I say horn is grippier. Your milage may vary.

I've never had a horn handle crack on me. One of Uncle Bill's discounted WW2's on sale had some hairline cracks when I bought it. They never got any bigger.
 
Both horn and wood are traditional.

Horn, however, seems to crack en route and in Reno due to lowever humidity. Someone's reported using an oil finish of some sort reduces the cracking. Can't remember specifics, but someone will stop in and tell you.

Wood on the other hand doesn't crack much, and you can shape it to your hand without having trouble bringing it back to shiny without a buffer, like horn does.

And on the third hand, a cracked horn handle makes it into a "blem" to be sold at reduced price. Add epoxy or superglue and save about half-price,
 
One nice thing is that both handle materials are relatively easy to repair should they need it. Power tools can make the job easier, but they aren't necessary. Superglue and epoxy will repair cracks or dings in either material, and the folks here in the cantina can give you advice on how to make the repairs virtually undetectable.

Bruise brings up an interesting point about gripiness. Polished horn can be a bit slippery, but rubbing it down with a green scotchbrite pad or some 400 grit sandpaper will give in a nice grippy satin finish. A coat or two of a good paste wax like Johnson's will also help.
 
ANG1 said:
What are the advantages, or disadvantages, of Horn vs. Wood handles?
Josh gave you the basic summary.

both good
neither better
depends on use & environment
but really only if you're talking extreme conditions
If your already a lover of wood then probably wood
Horn can be beautiful
can get nice figuring & depth once oiled
(but still a bit 'plastic-y' to me)
horn tough but can be brittle
horn quality may vary with supplies available to the kamis
wood easier to rework if you ever want
I never pay attenion to wood/horn when choosing a blade
much more interested in the blade itself
& sometimes the -shape- of the handle
I have both, probably more wood
because generally more wood is offered here on the forum
Some old khuks may have either horn or wood
still in good condition


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i love horn. unfortunately, in my opinion (and experience) that winter is a real bad time for horn. when winter rolls around, i put a thick coat of hooflex on my horn handles, wrap it in plastic wrap, than tape the whole thing together and put them away until summer.

seems like it's the cold that really shrinks the horn. but than winters here are cold and dry and that's pretty much death for horn.

horn for me is high maintainance but boy do i love it. i use a horn WWII when hiking (when i was in shape and single many moon's ago) and it seemed quite grippy and naturally water resistant. of course you can treat wood for that too...

your choice! my recommendation is you get both horn and wood. that's what most cowpokes here do anyhoo. Folk from Ohio on the other hand seem to have an affinity for antler. My advice is just to stay away from them Ohioans. :eek:
 
Josh Feltman said:
Polished horn can be a bit slippery, but rubbing it down with a green scotchbrite pad or some 400 grit sandpaper will give in a nice grippy satin finish.

Here's one of thems wierd folks whos hands slip on horn handles. Polished horn for me has the same grippiness as the wood handles. With damp hands the horn is grippier for me.

If you do sand the handle for extra grippiness sand around the handle (following the circle instead of lengthwise) This will make the handle Uber Grippy (tm). The handle will also lose the shine and become matte black. I used 600 grit on my last Uber Grippy (tm) handle.

:rolleyes: :)

Dave lives in the arctic and should buy a humidifier for his igloo (snow house for Yvsa). :D ;)
 
Thanks for all the feedback. Living in South Florida I won't have a problem with cold weather. I just ordered a Sirupati with Horn handle. I'll let you know my opinion of it when it arrives.
I just realized that I ordered my second Khuk within a week.
This site can become very hazardess to my wallet!!!!! :eek: :)
 
For me? Horn is more slippery, unless one buffs it a bit with some #000 steel wool, in which case it's fairly grippy but not as attractive.

It rains a lot around here. I'm usually stuck out in it. They're both slick in rain. Horn is a bit slicker unless it sees the abovementioned buffing.

I haven't had cracking with either, but then again, I'm still at the two month mark. (The antler has not been, and probably never will be, outside.) The wood used to get boiled linseed oil on the traditional schedule: remove the original wax and drive out the remaining oil, re-oil several times until the grip stops absorbing it, then once a day for a week, once a week for a year, once a year for life...same thing as my gunstocks and on the same schedule. I've since switched to Ballistol. The grips get oiled when the blades do...once or twice a week, or when I feel like it, or after use. (The scabbards get oiled along with them.) This is far more than what is necessary, but I'm used to lubing guns once or twice a week and the khuks went into the rotation. Once a month, or just after use, should be more than enough. Also note that, for me, red/flaky rust (and pitting - especially pitting) is unacceptable but tarnish or patina is fine...that's the working man's bluing. :D

The local feed and livestock shop didn't have Hooflex. (They have electronic mousetraps, they have tarantulas, but they don't have Hooflex.) Satori's Special consists of: one jar of hydrous lanolin from Walmart, enough turpentine to dissolve it while its container is sitting in the hottest water the tap can produce, and a couple of tablespoons of neets foot oil. No cracks, smells nice, and polished horn handles stay shiny. Once every two weeks or so the handles all get slathered in the stuff with a small paintbrush. (The military "acid brush" is perfect for this.) I let it sit for an hour or two, then wipe off the residue and buff with a rag. Everything's nice and shiny afterwards. I try to hit the exposed metal on chiruwa style grips with Ballistol later, but even when I forget, the metal doesn't seem to rust or tarnish. Similarly, if I happen to get Ballistol on the horn, it doesn't seem to hurt anything. (It probably helps.) This seems to be working for antler as well. The figure of the horn appears to improve over time with this treatment and I'm now seeing a bit of grain in the "grainless" handles I had. The one gray horn handled khuk I've purchased went to a friend as a Christmas gift, but if and when I ever do get one for me, I can't wait to see what this will bring out of it. I personally think that gray horn is far more beautiful than either regular horn or non-exotic wood, and is tied with antler.

If it's a UBBB, I'll take what I can get. :) Also, if I'm buying off the website, I opt for whatever the description lists as "mostly" - I figure it eases logistics on the Reno end and speeds up delivery. They're both nice. They're both beautiful in their own way. They're both under warranty. They both get wrapped up in paracord if they don't fit my hand. ;)

If I had to choose? Horn, just because it's very unusual in this part of the woods. Other than that, either one works for me.
 
easy problem to solve - get one of each and decide for yourself.


;)
 
I have had no cracking of my horn handles after using 4 applications of Watco oil. I live in a place where the heat runs constantly in the winter, and nothing else worked before I tried the Watco.
 
Dave Hahn said:
Folk from Ohio on the other hand seem to have an affinity for antler. My advice is just to stay away from them Ohioans. :eek:

That's just because we can eat them if the corn crop fails...

:barf:
 
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