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Plumberdv

Plumberdv

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First off, I want to say that this isn't meant to be sarcastic or a bash in anyway of any pattern. I'm truly looking for answers that will help me understand something.

I'd like to know what SPECIFIC uses there are in the civilian world for patterns like the CSAR, Bravo, Goast Rider, etc. especially those with the Besh Wedge, Tanto or Modified Tanto blades.

Im not looking for things like, "great heavy duty user", "handy on the job site" and so forth. I'm looking for specific tasks that would be handled best by them. For that matter, I worked construction of several different kinds for almost fifty years and try as I may, I can't think of one task I needed a knife for that I would have picked one of the tactical's over another knife to do.

I understand the various "hunting and skinning" knives because everyone seems to have their own way of doing things and different patterns suit their style. I just don't "get" the tacticals. :confused:
 
well i am knew to all the different blade designs but the only real world use in my life that i think a besh wedge might be good for is diving. my dive knives tend to get used for prying/scraping more then anything so always carried one that was blunt/chisel tip. more things that i thought might need to be cut in a more traditional way i kept a protege clipped to my bc.

but if the besh wedge gives that same use but also can be kept sharp on the tip could replace one with that. the bravo rescue is appealing since would have a way to cut through webbing/belts "safely" without opening a blade.

now i dive freshwater and actually prefer a larger folding rather then fixed. not really everyday but those are the specific purposes i have in mind for those
 
I'd forgotten about Buck adding a seatbelt cutter to the Bravo line last year and I can see how it would be helpfull for a Cop or an EMT.
 
Well, anybody might come upon a car accident and have to break glass or cut belts, so a big tough knife can be a good thing for anyone to carry.

Some would add self-defense, but I think most of us who are serious about it carry guns for that......I guess a knife could be considered a backup.
 
BG42EDGE said:
Well, anybody might come upon a car accident and have to break glass or cut belts, so a big tough knife can be a good thing for anyone to carry.

Some would add self-defense, but I think most of us who are serious about it carry guns for that......I guess a knife could be considered a backup.
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Anybody might, but there again I've been driving for 51 years and have never come across a situation where I needed to cut someone out of a seat belt or break glass. I'm not going to pick a knife to carry everyday on the off chance that something like that would occur. I think that's more in line with what a LEO or Parmedic might want to carry one for, not your average civilian.

For self defense, I'm with you there.:thumbup::thumbup: A knife is for sure a back up, last ditch weapon. I don't want to get that close to an assailant. :eek:
 
I don't carry any edc that has a seat belt cutter on it. However, I do keep one in my pickup that has a glass breaker on it.

It has been in there for 5 or 6 years and I have never needed it, but thats o.k.
If I do, its there.

I don't personally have any interest in the tactical style knives, but I would guess that a lot of people just like them for the looks. I would think that the amount of people that actually have a use for them is very small.
Everyone is different, and I'm sure there are a lot of people that would think my choices in knives are boring.

AS far as using a knife for self defense, very few people are actually trained in using one proficiently, I am one of those. Thats why I carry a Glock or 1911
 
I hadn't thought of looks, but it's a valid consideration. I guess I can see carrying a knife that you identify with.

Yeah.....I know.....I've been driving about 50 years, too. Three years ago I came across a rollover with one fat lady hanging from her seat belt. I had a Swiss Army Knife with a saw blade that I wanted to try, but she got free by herself before I could. :)

It's a rare thing, for sure.
 
I roamed the country roads and waterways with gun on hip for 23 years. LEOs changed knives all the time just to show-up with something new. A hatchet, pocketknife and best of all, a multi-tip screwdriver was what I needed. Now de-guned ,my personal vehicle stuff consists of 112 in door, medium ball peen and a GI shovel behind the drivers seat. Pocket knife on person. That ought to handle any situation a firearm won't and they are not threatening or illegal.

I don't have a problem with people being a wannabe pro and carrying rescue or LEO knife like those. Most eventually get over that phase, like we all did to some degree, an get back to normal knives. I haven't done anything but glance at those new ones as I turned the catalog pages.

300Bucks
 
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I read somewhere, Knives Illustrated I think, that the Csar is designed for "those who serve and protect our country on a daily basis" (paraphrased). So I assume it's designed for the armed forces, law enforcement, firefighters, coast guard, search and rescue, etc.
 
Actually, her boyfriend and her were both struggling to get her loose and I asked them if they wanted me to cut it and at that point they got her free, but I couldn't see how they did it cause it was a little crowded in there.

The engine was off and it didn't catch on fire anyway. I suppose the car was totaled, but I kind of hated to cut the belt just in case. Just one more thing to fix if they kept the car.

She was kicking and screaming, "GET ME OUT!!!"

So me and him dragged her out a window by the arms. Wasn't easy.....I was wondering if she was gonna get stuck.

I've been calling it a car, but it was some sort of SUV.....maybe a Ford Explorer.
 
Funny thing is, I have a friend who is a Nuclear Security Officer at a nearby Power Plant. They wear black swat team outfits, body armor, Glocks and AR-15's. I thought I might give him the CSAR to go with his costume, but he really didn't want it. He prefered an ASAP Tempest to carry at work.
 
wolfdog said:
I read somewhere, Knives Illustrated I think, that the Csar is designed for "those who serve and protect our country on a daily basis" (paraphrased). So I assume it's designed for the armed forces, law enforcement, firefighters, coast guard, search and rescue, etc.
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That's my take on the style also.
 
Plumberdv said:
BG42EDGE said:
I had a Swiss Army Knife with a saw blade that I wanted to try, but she got free by herself before I could. :)
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LOL, what happened, did the belts just break from the weight? :p
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You beat me to it :D

Plumberdv said:
Funny thing is, I have a friend who is a Nuclear Security Officer at a nearby Power Plant. They wear black swat team outfits, body armor, Glocks and AR-15's. I thought I might give him the CSAR to go with his costume, but he really didn't want it. He prefered an ASAP Tempest to carry at work.
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Costume :D I just about fell out of my chair when I read that
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I think it was Goose who said the only use he had for a bravo was to split frozen ribs in the kitchen:D(forgive me if it wasnt you Goose)

Not trying to be a smart a** here when I say I use the Csar to cut things. I just happen to like big honkin folders-I do however feel it would be much more useful for bailing cord or banding than for slicing an tomato or pearing an apple.

I was decorating for vacation bible school at church last summer and was using steel wire to hang stuff and used my hartsook to cut it at times but wasnt too happy about it-would have loved to have my Czar cause I know it would just laugh at it. I wouldnt want to cut it with a 420hc blade I dont think.
 
Some people like a large heavy knife, some folks abuse their gear and a knife like that will take it more than others. I gave one of my NCO's a CountyComm pry bar since he kept ruining his knives abusing them.

I carried a Benchmade Emerson with a tanto point for years. Was a plus the few times I had to use it as a pry bar.

On my trip to the sandbox I carried a 110 for daily use and a Randall #15 on my armor if I needed to hack through something or needed something larger than the 110. Also, had a small pry bar on me since I have learned.

So, in the end; I don't have a great answer for you either as to the "need" for the large beefy folders, aside from personal preference.

That's part of the reason I'm waiting to be able to handle the CSAR before I buy one. May be too beefy for my likes these days also.
 
I just heard on TV that America was going through a sexual revolution in 1969. Dang, I missed it--I was in Southeast Asia all of '69! Well, yeah, that's a little off subject, but I did hear that on TV just now. Along the lines of the conversation, I was a street medic, and also worked in the ER, for many years, nights and weekends--I was a school teacher for my day job. But, anyway, I've cut a lot of folks out of seatbelts, but I always used them big ole sissors that we all carried stuck in our belt. I also carried a 301, and a 110, in those days, but as sharp as I keep my knives, I'd be afraid to be foolin' around in the dark with a sharp object--somebody could get hurt.

I really haven't figured out what them "tacticals" are good for. Probably butcher a jalapeno, same as any other.

Jack
 
"I just heard on TV that America was going through a sexual revolution in 1969. Dang, I missed it--I was in Southeast Asia all of '69!"

Heck, I was here and still missed it. My wife wouldn't let me join the revolutionaries. :grumpy:
 
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