Would you make this for $300?

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sopmodm4

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What kind of steel would you use? Micarta or G10 scales?Could this knife be made of high carbon steel?Would you hand cut the serrations or try to use a wheel on that curve?

7 3/4 blade
6 1/8 inch handle
5/32 thick blade
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I don't have the equipment to make that knife, but I can give a few ideas I guess.
#1 It will probably have to be carbon steel judging from the pic and the dimensions you want. It would take a very wide peice of steel to do that with stock removal, wider than I have seen available in stainless knife grade steels. It could be forged by someone I suppose out of a narrower peice, but again that gets you into carbon steel.

#2 Those serrations are big enough, it would probably be best to try and do them on a small wheel grinder rather than cut them by hand.

#3 You might not be able to have the grind lines meet in the middle (from spine and cutting edge) on a blade that width made of 5/32" stock, it would be getting mighty thin in places. Would need someone with a machine with a couple different sized wheels once again probably.


It is an interesting design and you did a nice job drawing it. I'm sure someone could make it for you, but they're going to need some pretty good equipment. I don't know about it coming in under $300, that depends on who makes it. There are some guys here who have done similar things that you might get in touch with.
 
You are absolutely right about the stock thickness.It should be closer to 1/4 inch thick piece of stock to be able to get it to be strong enough with that back swedge area.



Thanks

PS I'm thinking that high carbon steel would be a better choice than stainless as well.I could probably cut out the blank myself but the grinds and serrations are way beyond my meager skills
 
in a piece of .25X1.50 inch 440C or B, cut in all in and send it to the HT'er??

hmmmm... why'not??

regards. mitch the fearless!! (when hammer'tis n' hand....and who's drinking wine as we speak.....)
 
Matt Shade said:
It would take a very wide peice of steel to do that with stock removal, wider than I have seen available in stainless knife grade steels.
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What width do you want? Crucible has 154CM, S30V, S60V, S90V and 440C in 24" x 96" sheets. 3V is also available in the same size sheets.

I would choose 3V because it is close to stainless and is incredibly tough (and it is my favorite steel ;) ).
 
I suppose that would do it ;)
I was just judging by the pic, its about 15 squares by almost 4 sqaures and he wanted the length to be almost 14 inches total. That puts the width well over the 2" max that they carry where I buy my stainless.
 
Wow! Ariel's knives are stunning. Even though he likes some of the same design elements I do, I'll bet his work is way outside my price range.
 
I'll 2nd F. Allin Kahrl... Ariel likes a challenge but the price might be rough. Contact him, he's a great guy to work with! :)
 
sopmodm4 said:
Wow! Ariel's knives are stunning. Even though he likes some of the same design elements I do, I'll bet his work is way outside my price range.
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Actually ...you'll never know unless you ask. His prices might be far more reasnable than what one would expect (hint). One e-mails doesn't cost you much, does it ?
 
He likes to work with damascus and expensive surface treatments when I'm just trying to come up with something made from some bead blasted high carbon steel and some black micarta handle scales to hang upsidedown my my LBE for when I go into the dark places of the world.

The very tough "almost stainless" steels sound like a good choice but the expense of heat treatment and the difficulty in finding wide enough stock might prove more expensive than I can afford.


Well I never imagined being able to get something that fine,thinking of a more workmanlike tool like something from Mineral Mountain Hatchet Works but getting this design made in Damascus would be beyond compare!

I'll send him an email right now..
 
Hey, happy new year (hic hic - did I ever mention I really like teh red wines we have here :D)

Ariel works all kinds of materials, not only fancy ones, don't worry about that.

Later!
 
Matt Shade said:
That puts the width well over the 2" max that they carry where I buy my stainless.
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If you need wider steel let us know. We will take good care of you. ;)
 
I'm still tidying up a few projects,but I would do that knife in carbon steel for you.Stainless would run you a good bit more,with the extra work and costs.I think it would look great in 1095.I would suggest 1/4" thick stock.There is a lot being removed in some areas.Best have a strong base.A too thin blade may have a tendency to break at the hook.I would probably forge most of the blade,and grind the details.Send me an email if you want to talk. Stacy Apelt
 
Chuck Bybee said:
If you need wider steel let us know. We will take good care of you. ;)
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I'll do that, course every time I look at my hacksaw I think 3/4" wide would be a lot better ;)
 
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