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What he means is that in THIS forum, we have been chastised and even received "demerits" for discussing SCHRADE KNIVES in ongoing auctions. I think this is only allowed in the Levine forum where it is almost no holes barred in discussing the knives, the sellers, or the auctions. I don't know how this is handled in the other manufacturer or collector forums.

Codger
 
Yea watch out they will send you to blade forums jail, just ask the other guys they kicked off..
 
Demerits? Blade Forums Jail? I'm going from an e3 to an e2 and 3 days on bread and water. Now I've done it. I thought this was a place to meet and share information. Ok I'll shut up. I'm sorry. --I'm not sure I committed a real sin since I didnt know I was doing anything wrong. Maybe it should be called a transgression.
 
so, is this allowed: i see a knife on ebay; i ask questions about pattern, years, etc. on this forum but do not provide an ebay link (or mention ebay). i bid according in part to info gained here. i assume this is o.k., whereas posting a link and asking for comments isn't.. please correct if necessary, i don't wish to break the rules. roland
 
Perhaps a moderator will post a clarification here. It was called "Auction Spotting". The member who called our attention to a knife on eBay (no link, no picture) did so in jest at the unreal price being bid. He received a 10 point "ding", fifty being the points at which a person is temporarily or permanently banned. He was not banned, but the mod suggested to him that if he could not obey the rules, perhaps this good member and friend did not belong here. I believe it was a misunderstanding in that the mod either did not bother to search for the auction, or doesn't know doodely about our knives and their values.

For years, even before Schrade folded, this forum has been self-moderated. And by and large it has worked. This particular moderator seems to have a pet peeve about our posting eBay auctions while they are ongoing which is evidently in the rules. I've not had much success in finding the particular rule or the definition of the term, but I don't doubt it is there. A friendly clarification from Cougar or another mod would be welcome.

Michael
 
I think where the transgression lies, according to what I got from the mod, was in that we have the potential to influence an auction whereby one member of this board is bidding on an item and the other members who may want the knife, do not bid on it in deference to the other member. And, I can say as one who is selling knives these days, can see where that could affect the ultimate price. They also don't want you advertising your items you may be selling on Ebay which is why I have not posted any of mine.
 
yes, a clarification and perhaps some reasoned debate is needed. for example, if a friend and i go to an auction and he sees something he likes, i am not going to bid against him. i think all of us would do the same in that situation. similarly, i would treat those who post here regularly as friends, particularly those who frequently help me with the questions i ask. anybody considering purchasing anything (auction or otherwise) has the right to do as much fact finding as they think necessary before proceeding. ebay knife listings can be misleading; the "not real" knife being difficult to distinguish from the "real" one. there is nothing unfair about us consulting each other to help prevent spending our money on something that is not what we think it is. it "levels the playing field" some. to disallow discussion here, is to give the unscrupulous seller an advantage. and finally, bladeforums in general, greatly increases interest in knife collecting and no doubt thereby boosts ebay prices .
well, that's what i think. i'll watch to see what the moderater and others say.
roland
 
Share your Schrade knowledge in this site by all means but there are many examples in this site of being open and honest during any auction will certainly be to your detriment and rarely to your benefit human nature being what it is.
If you decide not to bid against a member or friend that is a personal decision and who is ever going to know..its only when its sprouted about on here that it does become a problem. Even sharing successful bidding tips will also bring you undone as invariably you are compromising other techniques.
Bid to win if you want it,show your prize on here after you win it,share any new knowledge you find,keep the humour to a minimum as it will be mis- construed by the humourless.
This particular forum of BF does seem to be the Bermuda Triangle of common sense because other sections discuss Sellers during auction and their past histories,the genuineness of the auction knife and indeed those who are paying too much with total impunity....but crack one gentle Arnold joke from a member who contributed so much over such a long period and whose genuineness is undoubted and you're for the high jump....you see it matters little what you say it matters greatly who said it. This should be worth a few demerits. Once you set rules and keep setting new rules to clarify the rules and then new members arent savvy to all the old and new rules you end up with very few knowing what the rules actually are..and political correctness and fear of transgression take over and very little knowledge only harmless idle patter starts being imparted.
You know what political correctness is?......the belief it is indeed possible to pick up a turd by its clean end.......Hoo Roo back to the library.
 
Just emailed said seller about post to Australia and to check sizing..Got a lovely abusive email about how bad we are for Ebay..Here is the reply.,.
" LEAVE ME ALONE DO NOT DEAL WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU U GIVE EBAY A BAD NAME MY SHIPPING IS 5.99 CAN YOU NOT READ I SHIP KNIFES IN A BOX NOT PAPER IT IS WHAT I SAY IT IS."
This still does not tell me if it ships to Australia or what size it is..Very helpful person.Good luck with her bidding.
 
Larry303,

From someone like you, who has as many really nice knives, Schrade and otherwise.....are you just here to pick a fight?

Do you think you are the only person/collector with integrity or a valid opinion? That is how you are coming across, I believe.

Maybe rachet it down a notch, and think about contributing with your great collection, and the knowledge you have gained, instead of trying to get a lame reaction.

Just a thought from a long time forum member.

Bill
 
I can see sometimes why there is only a half dozen or so who will contribute as others are obviously not good enough it seems from some,others are great and I love reading some of the writings..
 
G'Day El Lobo, I dont see where you're coming from mate. Wadies previous posts were mostly directed at me and then he comes on and discredits the seller of this auction which I thought was being agreed would not be done.
The seller states she does not sell outside the USA which is her perogative and now we have a post from Wadie saying she sent him an abusive email.
Bit of consistancy....I dont mind being fair game from you guys but not a 6 post wonder.
I fail to see where I do not respect others opinions....anyway it should be about Schrade and not personal attacks on sellers,or dont you agree.
 
I never discredited the seller.I made a factual comment and even copied and pasted the exact wording..Nothing bad said and even wished them well with the bidding..Many a time has a person put USA post only and then agreed to send to AUS.A simple question was asked and rudely answered..You should know all about that...Thanks.
 
Did we ever get a comment from a moderator? just curious.
 
Tim, so have I ,however this is still a current auction being discussed with nearly 4 days to go..how fair is all this discussion if you were the seller?Do you come on and trumpet when you email a seller.I withstood withering bursts from this forum in the past from none other than Wadie for describing a parts knife being described as genuine by one of his 'mates' in Oz. This was a pointed post by Wadie and little to do with above knife.
All its doing is setting the low standard for the future and we lost Arnold for similarly discussing current auction.
 
Arnold is not really "lost". He is taking a breather (as quite a few of us have) and gaining perspective on the unexpected "event". It is my hope that he will soon return and post. And... that a moderator will 'splain to us how his post was an infraction. I do note that he does not have a "yellow" or "red" flag, and he is not on the June "walk the plank" list.

Michael
 
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