WOW! The price of some steel is going way up!

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Cost for 3V has almost doubled. Looks like several other alloys are much higher now as well.
Is this because of Crucibles problems, or just the metals market and overall bleak worlwide economic situation?

Glad I've got most of the knives I wanted already.
 
Here are a couple links that may shed some light on the reasons.

Sounds like China starting stockpiling steel in the New Year to offset falling steel prices. Could be we are starting to see the affect of that practice.

From May 2010
http://www.worldsteel.org/?action=newsdetail&id=298

Not certain of the date on this one, appears 2007-2008 so may not reflect current situation.
http://www.worldsteel.org/pictures/programfiles/Fact sheet_Raw materials.pdf

From Jan 2010
http://www.steelguru.com/chinese_ne...arding_steel_for_post_spring_fest/130274.html

Sept 2010, More on China cutting supply.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-09-09/china-power-cuts-may-trim-steel-aluminum-supply.html
 
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bearcut i do'nt have your answer but have the same problem with the cleaning agents i need in my business.. my business is much slower but products keep increasing in price.. what's up --less demand for the chemicals but they're still going up.
dennis
 
Everything is going to be increasing in price. Nearly all commodities have been increasing in cost for the past year. Rampant inflation is coming!

Much of it has to do with the monetary policy in Washington. They are flooding the market with dollars and it is making the dollar worth less.

It might benefit exports, though.
 
Everything is going to be increasing in price. Nearly all commodities have been increasing in cost for the past year. Rampant inflation is coming! the monetary policy in Washington. They are flooding the market with dollars and it is making the dollar worthless.

Edit political content - Will see what this does to knife prices over the next 12 months; fact is there's great opportunity in the broker or micro-steel factory.

"In confusion there is profit." - Operation Petti-Coat
 
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please refrain from political discussion on the general board, there is a specific sub-forum for it, with restricted access (for a reason)
 
Don't confuse economics with politics.

So here goes part of your explanation without getting political, the us dollar is declining in value, investors are seeking a hedge against a falling dollar. When they do this they flee to tangible things such as commodities (gold, silver, oil, nat gas, wheat, corn, pork bellies, orange juice, and metals of all types) because there is safety or less risk in commodities than other investment vehicles such as currency i.e. the dollar. So even though demand is down for commodities due to the overall depressed economic conditions the prices for commodities is rising due to demand from investors hedging for risk aversion. This will continue to happen as the dollar weakens further, and or investors become more nervous as they foresee additional headwinds going forward.

That is one reason your going to see more of it for sure heading into the next several years. Probably will not matter much after a certain point because either out of fear, uncertainty (both) and the fact it will take your whole check to pay bills because your operating cost will soar at the same time your currency will collapse or near collapse so you will not be buying knives anyway.

From an economics perspective that is part of the problem, and there was nothing political in that answer just plain good old fashion economics 101 and 102 which for the ignorant among us that comes out of an economics book not a poly sci book and is taught in Micro and Macro Economics classes at institutions of higher learning not in political science class.


ALSO TAUGHT IN MICRO AND MACRO ECONOMICS IS THE FACT THAT MONETARY POLICY DOES GET MADE IN WASHINGTON, SORRY THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS. The guy didn't start name calling or hollering about parties he stated a fact that has to do with part of a legitimate and correct answer to the question asked by the OP.
 
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Actually, I understand economics pretty well, world and state.
It’s an ugly situation, and much worse than most people know.

I was wondering if knife makers are seeing a dramatic increase in all steels, or just a few, like Crucibles 3V. Are supply problems to blame?
Any knife makers out there?
 
The problem is that steel can't be flummoxed like potato chips by simply reducing the size of the product.

Most of you have absolutely no idea how bleak our economic prospect is.

Inflation will be remembered fondly when the currency collapses entirely.

This will be delayed a bit by OTHER currencies going "first" but only gold will survive in the final analysis. Your retirements are going to turn to dust if you're younger than about 55. For the older folks, Social Security is considering means testing already and within your lifetimes will be rationed by measuring your other assets.

Believe it.
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All I know is that its high. And I grind it into sparky grey powder. But I continue to pay the price because that's what it costs. Not really much else u can do
 
It's the end of the world as we know it.

yes,so i have been told.:(

the simple fact is all commodities are going higher and higher as we chat in here. just in the last month i have seen it in the all the stores. steel is also a desired commodity. it will rise,and rise and fast. the basics like groceries are already sky rocketing. i have been shopping for my mother for the last month and a good example is medium sized eggs. they were $1.45 a doz. on the day of holloween. this morning the day before thanksgiving they are $2.00. another is a gal. of milk on holloween was 3.29,this morning 4.49. coincidence? i'm thinking not.

the worst is corn. corn is in everything. from cereal and soda pop to gasoline/ethanol and most everything in between.

things are about to get hairy so grab up your knives,but quick!

crissy
 
Compared to the value of the labor in a knife, the cost of the steel is but a small part of the total cost of the knife. Doubling just the cost of the steel in a knife won't drive the price of the knife up much. Doubling the cost of everything the knifemaker needs to buy to live, that's what drives up the cost of the knife
 
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