wow, these paper wheels work!

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I have used a lot of sharpening systems out there and this by far has been the quickest and cheapest out there and it actually works well. I bought my wheels as I am on an extended vaccation and didnt bring any knife stones or sharpeners with me. I got it today and it took me like 5-10 mins to figure out whats what (mostly because my grinder isnt bolted down and it likes to wander around the table a bit) but once I figured out what to do, I have been able to put some fairly sharp edges of about a 1/3 of my kitchen knifes so far in no time flat. It's too late for me to play more with it but I'm quite pleased with it. I want to be able to put hair popping edges on my knifes but so far, I have only been able to get them to wittle hair. perhaps its the metal? Oh well, I'll play more with it and hopefully I can figure out what angle is the right dangle.
 
Good job. Sounds like you got the hang of it quickly. If your edges can whittle free hanging hair, that's about as far as I ever go. Hair popping is easy compared to that.
 
Good job. Sounds like you got the hang of it quickly. If your edges can whittle free hanging hair, that's about as far as I ever go. Hair popping is easy compared to that.



I cant wittle free hanging hair, I though that was what hairpopping was. I can shave a peice of hair into 3 or nearly 4 peices (layers thick) though but I gotta hang on to both ends a bit as the blades I have been sharpening with wont catch the hair which is what im still trying to get them to do. I'm questioning the angle and the metal but I also know I'm new to a paperwheel and also question my technique still. I can easily push cut free hanging newspaper but still no wittling free hanging hair... yet...
 
I always took "hair popping" to be when arm hairs "jump" when shaved with a sharp blade. The sharp blade makes the hair pop up and fly all over the place.
 
Hair popping is SHARP, but pretty much requires contact between the skin and the blade. The next level is when you catch hair above the skin and shave layers off of the strands... That is hair whittling, to my understanding.
 
Hair popping is SHARP, but pretty much requires contact between the skin and the blade. The next level is when you catch hair above the skin and shave layers off of the strands... That is hair whittling, to my understanding.

Not trying to be nit picky. You're right about hair popping IMO, but I believe the cutting above the skin to remove sections of length that you're speaking of is called "tree topping". Hair whittling, as you will find in many threads here on the forums is literally splitting a hair into two strands lengthwise with the edge of the knife.
 
Hair popping is SHARP, but pretty much requires contact between the skin and the blade. The next level is when you catch hair above the skin and shave layers off of the strands... That is hair whittling, to my understanding.

there needs to be a dictionary for this type of stuff.
 
I had one odd problem today, I sharpened all the knifes I could get my hands on and it was going great until I came across one blade which would not cut paper well. It is pretty darn sharp and can shave hair and cut thru fruits beautifully but would not grab paper to slice thru it like all the other knifes I had worked on. I keep going back and forth between the grit wheel and polish wheel and finnaly gave up trying to have it pass the papercut test. I never really came across this problem before. This was a farberware kitchen chef's knife and I had a few other knifes from the same set and could easily get all the other knifes to pass the paper cut test but this sucker would just not slice paper.


Oh on another note, I was able to put a razor edge on to a 22inch machette I had laying around as I had finished sharpening all the knifes in my house. I never though I could get this sucker this sharp before as I had used a lansky system before on it and never came close. Sorta scary weilding it considering how sharp it is... I guess I gotta ask my friends now if they need any knifes sharpened cuz all of mines are done. It's amazing how quickly this system works.
 
woohoo, I found about 20 more knifes to sharpen. I was getting bored and actually turned to blunting a knife just to resharpen it but that lasted about 3 mins before it was razor sharp again...
 
I had one odd problem today, I sharpened all the knifes I could get my hands on and it was going great until I came across one blade which would not cut paper well. It is pretty darn sharp and can shave hair and cut thru fruits beautifully but would not grab paper to slice thru it like all the other knifes I had worked on. I keep going back and forth between the grit wheel and polish wheel and finnaly gave up trying to have it pass the papercut test. I never really came across this problem before. This was a farberware kitchen chef's knife and I had a few other knifes from the same set and could easily get all the other knifes to pass the paper cut test but this sucker would just not slice paper.


Oh on another note, I was able to put a razor edge on to a 22inch machette I had laying around as I had finished sharpening all the knifes in my house. I never though I could get this sucker this sharp before as I had used a lansky system before on it and never came close. Sorta scary weilding it considering how sharp it is... I guess I gotta ask my friends now if they need any knifes sharpened cuz all of mines are done. It's amazing how quickly this system works.
So long as you raise a burr before moving onto the slotted wheel, it should be able to cut paper. However, most store bought kitchen cutlery are worthless scrap metal that can't hold an edge for 5 minutes, so the issue might simply be that the steel is too soft, and you're simply rolling the edge to one side when you hit the slotted wheel.
 
I've noticed my Faberware kitchen knives have issues with certain sharpening methods, and then it's certain knives. I have a paring knife that will be noticably less sharp than my Delica, with the exact same sharpening treatment. The chef's knife works great though. You may be doing some damage with heat if you're not being very careful. Set it down and try later when the frustration has subsided. I didnt do that when I first started sharpening using power equipment, now my 806D2 has a new blade.:(
 
I've noticed my Faberware kitchen knives have issues with certain sharpening methods, and then it's certain knives. I have a paring knife that will be noticably less sharp than my Delica, with the exact same sharpening treatment. The chef's knife works great though. You may be doing some damage with heat if you're not being very careful. Set it down and try later when the frustration has subsided. I didnt do that when I first started sharpening using power equipment, now my 806D2 has a new blade.:(

I dont let it heat up very much if at all, ususally i never take that long. I came upon another blade which seems to have the same issue as the other knife which would just not pass the paper cut test. both blades will cut nearly everthing else I can throw at them and will shave hair but just does not like paper.
 
So long as you raise a burr before moving onto the slotted wheel, it should be able to cut paper. However, most store bought kitchen cutlery are worthless scrap metal that can't hold an edge for 5 minutes, so the issue might simply be that the steel is too soft, and you're simply rolling the edge to one side when you hit the slotted wheel.

I do raise a burr and the paper wheel takes it off nicely. I'm not really using that much pressure on the slotted wheel. Perhaps thats still too much.
 
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