Xm 18 spanto

I will when I get mine it's gonna be a tool not a safe queen I buy tools to save others not to sit in my safe
 
Magnumfloyd said:
I will when I get mine it's gonna be a tool not a safe queen I buy tools to save others not to sit in my safe
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So do very many. With a huge majority unable or unwanting to post about it on the Interwebz. Knives are tools, Hinderers are damn fine knives. I do reccomend the right tool for the job. If you have access to a tool designed to pry locks open, use it first. If all you have is a folding knife and something must get done, do it.
 
That's the thing with emergency responders you use what u have on you wether you damage the tool or not as longs as not to hurt yourself.
 
Deadbolts succum to drills, doorknobs fail with a violoent twist of the stalk, all fail under enough properly applied force.
 
Magnumfloyd said:
That's the thing with emergency responders you use what u have on you wether you damage the tool or not as longs as not to hurt yourself.
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Or even if you may be injured or worse...it's the selflessness that commands much respect.
 
I have a trusty pro bar if I need fast access but some times you need to get grandma in with out destroying the door we manipulate locks
 
I usually don't respond to posts like this but I agree with N2K, use the right tool for the job. A knife is a knife not a prybar or a pick. You sir are asking about using a knife to defeat a lock. For what purpose I do not know but since you posted something like this on a public forum I will say this, if you intend to use any knife in this fashion it will break or significantly shorten the knifes lifespan. Ricks knives are excellently built and I carry one daily but I wouldn't ever plan on using it against a lock. If you feel like you absolutely need this ability in a cutting tool then please take my advice and just carry a axe :D
 
Personally, Not going to go after any mechanism designed to withstand forced entry with one of my knives unless one of my kids lives depends on it.
Prybar, Wonderbar, axe, crowbar.... yes.
Hell, I'll back the truck up and take a run at it if I'll fit.
Lots of better "tools" for the job.
 
Not sure how you could possibly open a lock with a knife, let alone the very thick tip of the Spanto.
As a locksmith, we use more conventional tools like Lock Picks & nice Tension Wrenches. The tip of the Spanto would not work efficiently or safely as a pick or torsion bar. If your thinking about jamming it the door frame like you would a butter knife, that might work if the door wasn't installed correctly.
Best way to be prepared for a non emergency entry is keep a pick set in your wallet & on your keys so if you do not have your main set you have a spare.
 
MODiFiEDZ said:
Not sure how you could possibly open a lock with a knife, let alone the very thick tip of the Spanto.
As a locksmith, we use more conventional tools like Lock Picks & nice Tension Wrenches. The tip of the Spanto would not work efficiently or safely as a pick or torsion bar. If your thinking about jamming it the door frame like you would a butter knife, that might work if the door wasn't installed correctly.
Best way to be prepared for a non emergency entry is keep a pick set in your wallet & on your keys so if you do not have your main set you have a spare.
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Great options Mods, and I like the addition of non emergency entry, I have been in this situation fairly often and that is a great way of wording it. Usually it's what's known as a lift assist type call ie " Help! I've fallen and I can't get up!". I personally love these calls because they are very rewarding, it's not often that people are truly happy to see me and its nice to feel the gratitude, and know you've helped someone keep their indipendance..

This being said here is my advice for magnumfloyd: When going to an unplanned call as a first responder without an ambulance or fire truck, have a plan...... Keep some sort of lock kit in your jump bag as mods has suggested (if this is a common need for you), prepair in your head for the hypotheticals, I keep an OB kit in my jump bag because you never know, but that's me... But more importantly, find the path of least resistance for your entry point, like that window with the a/c unit etc.... I've never had to pick a lock to gain entry.....look under the flower pot! You get the idea....and if its an emergency GAIN ENTRY BY ANY MEANS! Don't defeat a lock, break a window or breach the door.....

I'm sorry I tried to stay out of this thread, it seems very familiar...... As I've said before..... It's a knife not a Halligan tool, it's there for an emergency which is unplanned, and I'm very confident knowing its with me ALWAYS!
 
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I also was going to stay out of this one, however over my LE career I have breached many doors, usually with a ram! Okay a non emergency situation I'm with Wowcoop. I am always amused by individuals ( not OP included), that have unrealistic expectations for a knife ie; prybar, screwdriver, axe, sheetrock knife, etc. Like others have already stated there is usually a tool designed for specific tasks, a knife is primarily a cutting instrument, the geometry, blade bevels, and overall design is to fulfill is primary task, which is to cut.
A Hinderer is an overbuilt heavy duty cutting knife, not a universal tool. Obviously in a survival situation all bets are off and sometimes you have to sacrifice an object to move you from where you do not want to be, to where you need to go. Nuff said.
 
Even after reviewing the kwikset lock, i would say that the flat blade screw driver is better suited to popping off the face. Considering you need the pliers of a leatherman to further manipulate the lock, its better to use the leatherman for all the purposes.
 
With putting in almost 40 years to the job I have seen it all. Once I watched a 2 year rook attempt to break a lock with his folder with no luck. Myself and an EMS took 3 steps to the side of the door and broke the window glass and stepped in. A man must know his limitations, and his tools.
 
In many states owning a pick set, for non-lock smiths, is illegal, or it used to be. I had to sell mine when I left the military, so I would not possess burglary tools :mad:

MODiFiEDZ said:
Not sure how you could possibly open a lock with a knife, let alone the very thick tip of the Spanto.
As a locksmith, we use more conventional tools like Lock Picks & nice Tension Wrenches. The tip of the Spanto would not work efficiently or safely as a pick or torsion bar. If your thinking about jamming it the door frame like you would a butter knife, that might work if the door wasn't installed correctly.
Best way to be prepared for a non emergency entry is keep a pick set in your wallet & on your keys so if you do not have your main set you have a spare.
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