Year of 2-dot 110FG??

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I recently bought a 2-dot 110FG on Ebay.
I haven't been able to open Joe's data sheet file on the 110's dating system. But, I've seen a thread that mentioned 110FG's weren't produced until 1982 which were 4-dot.
So, I'm wondering how this knife might have come to be?
http://s752.photobucket.com/albums/xx167/cherokee65/2-dot 110FG/
The edges are bevelled only on the end of the rear bolster where the back-spacer shows its length, the backstrap, I guess. The thumb depression isn't bevelled even. And the front bolster isn't bevelled at all.
It's a 3-pin handle with 1/8" pins which might indicate '78-'80 production year.
The color and grain of the wood on both sides resemble closely another 2-dot 110 I have.
It appears to be the very same frame as the other 2-dot 110 I have, that also has the same size and number of pins as the 2-dot 110FG.
It has initials in the bolsters and it having been used and sharpened greatly reduces its value. But, it's in great condition and it still begs the question, a 2-dot 110FG?
I've sent an e-mail to Joe, but I was hoping over the weekend, I might be able to get some help with this.
Thanks for any help you might have.
 
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It is my understanding that finger grooved 110's were first introducted as a 4 dot model in the 1982-1983 time frame. If that is the case, finger grooves could have been easily added to your 2 dot, or perhaps the 2 dot blade was installed in the finger grooved frame.
 
Thanks for your input Tin Sue. Hope the added pics help. And I was kind of wondering the same thing about the 2-dot blade put on an FG. The seller told me he got it from an estate sale in Los Angeles. I don't know if that would make a difference or not.
But, wouldn't this still be an unusual knife since the back-strap is the only bevelled edge? Instead of the FG's in '82 that were all bevelled except the thumb-depression before it went to all edges being bevelled?
I guess I'm hoping that this is actually a knife produced by Buck as it is. But, you may be right about it.
Thanks again for any input anyone might have.
 
All I see is the clues you already mentioned and going by them.........I'm inclined to guess that the finger-grooves were added later and are done well enough to have been done by a Buck employee (maybe a quick lunch hour project).

However, the real 110 experts may correct me on that.

Nice knife no matter what. Doesn't cost much to send it to Buck for a spit shine that will make it like a new knife.

:)
 
well here is my two cents worth on finger grooving..
edit: it makes the knife easier to hold and looks good too!
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110 Dave said:
i would think it a rare find..
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So Dave, assuming the finger grooving was done later, whey would this particular knife be any more of a rare find that if I were to take a 2 dot, send it to Leroy for finger grooves, and voila, I now a rare find also?
 
Tin Sue said:
It is my understanding that finger grooved 110's were first introducted as a 4 dot model in the 1982-1983 time frame. If that is the case, finger grooves could have been easily added to your 2 dot, or perhaps the 2 dot blade was installed in the finger grooved frame.
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I agree with Tin . Larry O. has in his collection a NIB 3 dot with finger grooves . He assures me they do exist and are rare . We've seen 3 dot 112's with finger grooves . But never have I seen a 2 dot 110 with finger grooves . It would also be hard to verify who did it and then making it only interesting not rare . DM
 
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Larry O. has in his collection a NIB 3 dot with finger grooves . He assures me they do exist and are rare . We've seen 3 dot 112's with finger grooves .
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Yeah, Dave M......I posted pics of my pair of Three-Dot 112 FGs a couple of days ago.....so I can vouch for this revelation.

:D
 
prier to the intro of the Official Factory finger grooved models!!!
not only was it not allowed it was forbid to have one at work!
to have one with you at work could get you a warning
and to be caught putting finger groves on one or a 2ed time with one
could get you Terminated !!
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Even so, we know that a lot of rules were broken and a bunch were probably done before the rule was made.

Were some Buck employees equipped with a home shop where they did work such as this for pleasure or profit?
 
Tin Sue said:
So Dave, assuming the finger grooving was done later, whey would this particular knife be any more of a rare find that if I were to take a 2 dot, send it to Leroy for finger grooves, and voila, I now a rare find also?
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David Martin said:
I agree with Tin . Larry O. has in his collection a NIB 3 dot with finger grooves . He assures me they do exist and are rare . We've seen 3 dot 112's with finger grooves . But never have I seen a 2 dot 110 with finger grooves . It would also be hard to verify who did it and when making it only interesting not rare . DM
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to me it would be a rare find only IF
you could be sure of who owned it -
and that they worked at buck at that time it was not allowed and it was done then..
it is only the provenance that makes it any thing other then neat
i was only trying to give the OP some info he might like to know
i made no judgment as to his knife at all..
 
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That's really interesting stuff, thanks very much for all your help.
Makes it even more collectable to me, personally, thinking that it might actually have come from before FG's were formally introduced as well as by a Buck employee. But, as was suggested it would probably be close to impossible to verify any theories like that. It's still a nice addition to my small, but growing collection.
 
The initials ate JH. Its obviously Joe Housers work so just ask him:p

Those are really nice fingergrooves so whoever did it knew what they were doing instead of some of the hack jobs you see on the bay from time to time.

I got a 3 dot fingergroove the g gave to me and he says it was an employee mod.

heres a pic for comparison sake.

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I find it interesting that they both have flattend front and rear bolsters. Factory fg's dont seem to have that-possibly same craftsman?
 
The initials are JH. Its obviously Joe Houser's work so just ask him.
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Shhhhhhhh.......we don't want to get Joe terminated after all these years, do we???!!!

:D
 
I find it interesting that they both have flattend front and rear bolsters. Factory fg's dont seem to have that-possibly same craftsman?
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Actually, it's a bit uncanny how similar they look.
 
I quoted Tin and then was using his wording in my post right under his . As I was agreeing with him . Please, excuse me for not being touchy, feely enough . It must be the moon phase . DM
 
I don't care how the moon looks......you get touchy feely with me and you'll get yourself a punch in the nose.

:D
 
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