Originally posted by frediver
Why do you really want a multi-fuel stove? A gas/kerosene combo should do everything you need. Flying with a stove on a commercial aircraft is a trick,if they know you have a stove you can't take it.
In the U.S. I have never found a place where you couldn't get Coleman type fuel or kerosene if you needed it. The L.P. stoves are much more difficult to find canisters for.
Primus makes a great L.P. stove and it is very light weight and cheap. You already know about M.S.R. stoves. Buy both and leave the one at the trail head in your car that you don't have fuel for.
Not sure what you're saying. For the price of "both," I could buy one that burns both, and not leave any behind?
Also, you bring up an interesting point. I have heard people say before that you couldn't take a stove in your checked luggage. Where do you get this information? I just checked both the FAA and the airline that I'll be flying, and no mention of stoves. They go into great detail with lighters, and combustible substances, including "flammable solids and liquids." But, no mention of stoves. I have heard some say that you can take a stove but not the fuel (obviously), other say that you can take a stove that has never been used, and still others like you say that you can't take a stove, period. Do you have personal experience with this?
I plan on calling the airline and asking them directly, but so far I've ended up on hold for so long that I gave up. Worst case, I will send the hazardous stuff general delivery to the PO. No problem there, as long as I declare it so they ship it ground (and get it in the mail soon enough).
On to the particular questions. I want the multi-fuel exactly because I don't know what types of fuel will be available where I'm going. It is supposedly way out in the middle of nowhere. Theoretically, since I'll be flying into an airport in that region of the country, then driving a substantial distance, i could stop on the way and pick up white gas.
Theoretically. As for the canister capability, it's not that important. But, if I'm buying a stove in that range, I might as well go for the extra capability. BUT, getting the cheaper stove is definitely something to consider.
As far as the disk assembly, I believe it is too easy to screw up. A friend and I went backpacking for a couple of days on the AT a few years ago. He had a Whisperlite that he had used many times, one that he had finally had to clean. He cleaned it the day before departure, and didn't fire it up afterward to make sure everything was working right. So we get out on the trail and that evening he goes to fire it up so we can make dinner. Well, after priming it, it wouldn't light. So he primes it again. Still wouldn't catch. Dumps a bunch of fuel in to prime it. Still won't catch. Starts fiddling with the disks, the orientation of them to each other, then primes again. This time, it catches, but will only put out a meager flame. Maybe 3 candles' worth. We were looking at a hungry night, except since we were at a shelter, a group of people there let us use their
Coleman twin burner camp stove! These guys had actually packed that thing in. Along with a bunch of canned goods, fresh vegetables, and cookware. These guys wanted to eat right. And they were glad to get rid of the food so they didn't have to pack it all back out the next day.
So anyway, my friend and I head home that day, bailing early. Not directly due to the stove, but it did factor into the decision. If other things had been going well, we would have toughed it out. Anyway, he goes home and takes the thing apart again, figuring that he had screwed up the orientation of the disks. After working on it an evening, he figures he has it together correctly and tries firing it up. It works much better.
So, the next time he goes out, he is with other people, I'm not along. But I get word back later that the stove was now doing the same thing again. I think he worked on it again and got it working again. But he never trusted it as his sole source again. Incidentally, he also made sure that all the fuel lines, gaskets, pump, and the rest were hooked up correctly and not leaking, and that the jets and such were clean. And it wasn't losing pressure (except through the burner that wouldn't burn). The only thing he could figure was the burner stack. Soooo... I'd just as soon not start dealing with that. I'd rather pay the extra bucks for a burner that won't simmer.
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Bummer rock, the apex II has stacked disks and is about $65 . what problems with the disk style did you have? I once over flowed a pot and put the flame ,
but it was very easy to disasemble and clean ,one good note the stove simmers great.. good luck ! Mark
