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Found this in the Swamp Rat section. It was bent chopping wood and when the owner went to straighten it. . .
I'm sure the Company will replace.
 
These fantasy things are decorative only. What was the owner thinking when he figured he'd try to chop wood with it? Ya gotta buy the right tool if it's actually gonna be put to work.
 
No I believe that Hawks a real McCoy a Swamp Rat Rattle hawk, it's supposed to be a tough one.
 
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300Six, I recommend you take a look at what has been done with Swamp Rat Hawks in the past, before calling a very well-made tool a "fantasy thing".
 
Hahahahahah!!! Love it. SO...the vast majority of these hawks are swung around in bored dudes backyards while they play apocalypse...but they are not fantasy toys??? :D
 
El Bandit0 said:
300Six, I recommend you take a look at what has been done with Swamp Rat Hawks in the past, before calling a very well-made tool a "fantasy thing".
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I will not retract that statement. I've used properly designed tools for over 50 years and this 'fanciful gizmo' does not qualify. May be very well made, under the circumstances, but no design or engineering thought ever went into realistic end uses.
 
The tool might be very high quality, but when you have a beard like that on a tool, you run the risk of it snapping. Maybe 1 in a thousand, but it happens. I don't care what you call it, the steel can only take so much sometimes.
 
300Six said:
These fantasy things are decorative only. What was the owner thinking when he figured he'd try to chop wood with it? Ya gotta buy the right tool if it's actually gonna be put to work.
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Congrats you have just made a statement that has just won "the most absurd thing I have ever read here on BladeForums award", way to go it was really hard to beat out the last guy I gave that award to, I can now ignore everything you say as you have lost all credability.
 
Firestrike said:
Congrats you have just made a statement that has just won "the most absurd thing I have ever read here on BladeForums award", way to go it was really hard to beat out the last guy I gave that award to, I can now ignore everything you say as you have lost all credability.
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Pretty sure the tomahawk/axe pictured was not designed for chopping wood. What was it designed for??
 
300Six said:
These fantasy things are decorative only.
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The designation of this hawk has nothing to do with the user chopping wood. To say these are decorative only is an uneducated statement. Swamp Rat uses SR101 embedded with a legendary heat treat. The Rattle Hawk may not be everyone's cup of tea design wise, but these were built specifically for extremely hard use.

It's cousin the KDSH.....same steel and heat treat, was filmed chopping a car literally in two pieces. Absolutely no edge or spike damage. That's not decorative.

These are arguably the toughest, most durable tomahawks on the market today and certainly on par with an RMJ tomahawk.
 
Firestrike said:
Congrats you have just made a statement that has just won "the most absurd thing I have ever read here on BladeForums award", way to go it was really hard to beat out the last guy I gave that award to, I can now ignore everything you say as you have lost all credability.
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"Most absurd thing I have ever read". Far out! Might be time for you to subscribe to any old newspaper or magazine. Go on out and have a few more tokes and then try to explain to me why I would aspire to want to own something like this. I'm all ears!
 
Swamp Rat is resolving the issue. I'm sure it's an isolated incident where one slipped through the cracks in the treatment department. The steel and heat treat on these hawks have an uncanny ability to be flexible enough snap back after extreme torquing and impacting.
 
It's a tomahawk which is a weapon. Sure it can chop here and there and so can a 9" camp knife, but definitely not the ideal tool to chop wood.
 
jaymack9100 said:
It's a tomahawk which is a weapon. Sure it can chop here and there and so can a 9" camp knife, but definitely not the ideal tool to chop wood.
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Most traditional hawks don't have the very pronounced 'beard' as shown in the picture. What is the purpose of the part of the head where the steal broke? I am more interested in the reasoning behind the design than I am in the qualities of SR101 or the heat treatment of the steel.
 
If you need to make a cut-say a "doorway" in a light skinned vehicle or aircraft you chop then lever it. It works like a can opener. Not really for outdoor use ( unless you want to make a burn barrel out of a 55 gallon steel drum in the field) but for emergency breaching/ rescue. When used properly (and made properly) it shouldn't break but it is the weakest spot on the hawk.
 
FireStrike: Did I open a can of worms,.... and get your goat up? Blithely pretending and blindly defending that there is a practical/realistic use for something fictional/inventive/creative is quite different from appreciating useful things that already exist. I can very much see the appeal of fanciful curves and shapes and can also see how this whole self-defense/survival/zombie genre is encouraged by a Capitalistic cottage industry of willing suppliers that will expound on 'superior steel, heat treat, cryogenic hammer-forged' etc etc.
Consider this: when Estwing Mfg. starts making implements such as this I know two things; 1) ordinary working folks have a real use for them and 2) they're engineered/designed and built so that they won't break.
 
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