You dudes with old celluloid knives.

SVTFreak

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How do y’all store them so they don’t cause corrosion on your other knives if they start off gassin? I finally picked up a MOP bulldog and I’m pretty sure it’s celluloid, so I don’t wanna keep it with my others or even in my safe. Just curious what y’all do? I thought about keeping it in plastic but that won’t be good for it should it start deteriorating.
Thanks!

pick of it just cause.
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I only have one that I keep separate from the others. I'm not even sure if it's celluloid. I just think it might be.

I keep it in a cheap $3 cloth lined knife pouch with a zip closure. It's stored in my bookcase about 10 feet from the rest of my knives just in case.
 
I have two 50-80yo. Still good. I keep them on the end table in the open out of direct sun.
 
Nobody can guarantee that your celluloid knife won't deteriorate. It may not run away for decades, it might go next week. Think of this: With all of the money in and around Hollywood, nobody has figured out how to preserve flammable film stock. All that can be done is to transfer the images to stable media.

Some things may help. Cool and dark is good. Acid trapping materials like calcium carbonate, sodium bicarbonate, or zeolite can slow the reaaction that causes deterioration. Free air movement may help. The problem is the acidic fumes that the celluloid gives off. Allowing the fumes to accumulate will only aggravate the problem.

The only sure way to prevent damage is to store celluloid away from non-celluloid knives, and away from each other. It won't prevent the celluloid knife from running away, but it will prevent damage to other knives.

Storing it in plastic won't prevent deterioration, and may accererate it once it starts. Don't worry about further damage once the process starts. Once the celluloid starts deteroirating, nothing will stop it.

I've had a few knives deteriorate. One in particular was bad. It was in a drawer that didn't get opened for something like six years. There was basically nothing left of the scales, and it was a corroded mess. Worse yet was the damage caused to the rest of the knives in the drawer. I don't buy celluloid any more, haven't for years. The knives I still have are kept well apart from each other and everything else of value.

Lesson learned... Keep celluloid away from everything else, and away from other celluloid knives.

For what it's worth, I doubt your Bulldog is celluloid. It's impossible to tell from pictures, but I'd bet it's acrylic. Search the interwebs, there are non-destructive tests you can do to find out for sure.
 
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In a sealed mason jar with a bit of baking powder in the bottom (or buried in baking powder)?

My only known celluloid knife went to a new home with a then co-worker, about 8 or 9 years ago.
I did warn him about the celluloid.
I have no idea if he still has that knife, or if he recovered it.
It was a nothing special "Made in USA" brand 2 blade medium/small 3.25 inch closed pen knife with black celluloid covers.
I think it would cost more to recover than the knife was worth, even if you did the work yourself.
 
I would bet it's " cracked ice " acrylic, but I don't know how you can tell.
I have a couple in celluloid and just store them on the shelf with my belt knives instead of the wooden box with my pocket knives.
 
I have close to a dozen, and I just leave them out on the dresser, resting on their backsprings so the covers have full circulation of air, and with about an inch between each of them. I've had several 1970s-'80s celluloids gas-out on me, but never a prewar knife. Just fortunate, or . . . "if they haven't by now, they never will!"
 
Thanks everyone for the advice! I’ll see what I can find out about weather it is celluloid or acrylic.
 
When celluloid knives die, but not too badly, they become parts knives and are deconstructed to make other Frankenknives. I've got a mini Remington almost-stockman that came to be that way. You can still see the line from the oxidation on one blade and it's a knife that is in no catalog. Per dealer "It's no pattern I've seen and I've never seen those tang stamps together on the same knife" ;) It's my only Remington and has wood handles painted black but the walk & talk is great.
 
Quick way to find out. Heat up a needle and touch it on the mark side.
Plastic will melt, mother of pearl won't.
 
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