Your take on the full height grind...

Dunner

Dunner

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I want one of these Fusion Steel Hearts and wanted to get everyones take on the advantages of the full height grind versus the standard grind on the new release. I plan on doing a lot of chopping with this knife! Some people seem to have a strong opinion on different grinds and I have not formed a strong opinion yet. I would guess that the standard grind is stronger (as if I would hurt the new FSH in ANY grind), and may induce a little more friction on the blade in very deep cuts. Does the full height grind offer any advantages in this regard? As Jerry pointed out...this blade is over 2" wide so I would imagine any benefits of a full height grind would not be as pronounced as it is in smaller blades where angles would be more crucial. Is this a cosmetic preference? Please help! I want to get an order in EARLY! :eek:
 
I think you'd be hard pressed to notice the difference on a knife the size of the Steel Heart. On a small slicer I can see the arguement, but with a Steel Heart. I just don't see it being an issue.
 
I think I understand your question. The biggest difference would probably be noticed in the handle. With the thicker, full height grind, I would assume the entire handle would be thicker. It won't make a difference in strength either way, at-least not a difference that would matter. Plus, I would guess the edge angle would be the same on either one. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I'm definitely going for the thickest one! I like the feel of thick handles. And I like the way the spine looks, when it's so thick. That's what I think.
 
Probably no appreciable difference chopping. You might notice a difference with deep cuts (greater than the thickness of the blade), especially slices, in resistive materials - watermelon, thick cardboard, meat, etc. But the SH is going to perform a bit less well in these things anyway because it is so thick. Then again, if you're primarily slicing watermelon go get the cheapest, thinest blade you can fine and send your SH to me. :D
 
typically full hight grind = better chopper, slicer, (think kitchen knife) but less relative lateral strength (not as good for prying) more difficult to sharpen eventually ( thicker metal close to edge) than a convex grind. With a stock this thick some of the advantages of a full grind are minimized just as are some of the disadvantages. just my .02 hope it helps. Personally I love the look of both grinds, but the full height grind FSH looks really BAD (as in Satan's chef knife)
 
Dunner,

I've got 2 Missions and a Fallkniven with full flat grinds. It seems to make them feel lighter and faster in hand.

I don't imagine that there would be much loss of lateral strength with an INFI full flat grind.

If I had a choice, I'd buy full flat grind.

David
 
Please read height where I typed flat. Controlling small children makes thinking and typing difficult.
 
Bah!! I'll get a hollow grind and beat it like a red headed step child and send it back to jerry if it fails (yeah right). Make mine a busse, not just for the steel and heat treat, but the fact i can call jerry and bribe him with a few cheap eastern beers to send me a new one. ;)

just kidding jerry, the spirit of les made me say it.

:D
 
tyuio said:
just kidding jerry, the spirit of les made me say it.

:D
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Toink,

I told you that you and Les are not allowed to play together unless properly supervised by either a parental unit or a heavily armed fire team!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Boy, you'd think that getting banned from Los Angeles would've sent a fairly clear message to you two. ;)

Jerry
 
Jerry Busse said:
Toink,

I told you that you and Les are not allowed to play together unless properly supervised by either a parental unit or a heavily armed fire team!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Boy, you'd think that getting banned from Los Angeles would've sent a fairly clear message to you two. ;)

Jerry
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they couldn't make any of those charges stick anyway, i belive we were found innocent, pure as the driven snow
:rolleyes:
 
shanewomer said:
I think I understand your question. The biggest difference would probably be noticed in the handle. With the thicker, full height grind, I would assume the entire handle would be thicker. It won't make a difference in strength either way, at-least not a difference that would matter. Plus, I would guess the edge angle would be the same on either one. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I'm definitely going for the thickest one! I like the feel of thick handles. And I like the way the spine looks, when it's so thick. That's what I think.
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I agree with this. I would guess the thinner steel in the handle, even though a lighter knife, would put the balance further forward with the partial height grind. Making the lighter knife feel more blade heavy. Makes sense in my head anyway.
 
i have always liked flat or standard, full goes to waste, remember..... what

you can't get in your mouth goes to waste anyway :p
 
FWIW, when trying to choose between the flat ground Meaner Street and the non-flat ground Leaner Meaner Street, I tried to determine which would have the steepest secondary bevel, thus probably being the best slicer. Using the law of cosines, and having to estimate the height of the grind on the Leaner, I calculated that there was no significant difference between the included angle of the two. In fact, if my estimate was near correct, the wider, flat ground blade has a slightly more acute bevel.

So I made the only rational decision and ordered both.
 
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