zdp189 on ranch.

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DennisStrickland

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was concerned that my rebevel would chip on hard duty[ in fact i expected it ] i had put acute bevel on endura zdp189 & tested it severely. we put out 4 1000 lb . bales of hay.[ we call them ton buns] & the hay was wet on bottom from 5 in. rain, covered with mud. for people whom are,nt in the rural scene these bales are covered with poly string net to keep them together. i used the endura to slice across 6 ft. of mud ,hay, & wet straw. i buried blade to handle & really put the pressure to the cutting since it was 36 degrees & we had to bring each bale 1/2 mile to cows. after all the other & the poly net i went to ranch & washed knife off. i started with a razor edge & endura wold'nt shave hair after the task.my bropther & i were amazed since there was no chipping at all.we put razor edge back with diamonds & custom butcher slick.i had heard some forum members had chipping with the zdp but after the mud & all the dirty poly net we had no damage. i do,nt expect the zdp will be any problem in nearly any situation.dennis
 
dangreco said:
Thanks for the info! Now try banging it on some jagged quartz and see what happens.
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Why would you do that? Why would you suggest doing that? Do you take a new car and ram it into a brick wall to test drive it?
 
I have reported his posts as trolling.
Both in your thread and this one.
Frank
 
In 08 I made a few leather sheaths, doing most of the cutting and trimming with my ZDP-189 Caly 3. Of course it felt pretty smoothed over after finishing a sheath, but it would still cut leather reasonably well. Last fall I made another sheath, this time using two VG-10 blades. By the end of the project one of them was completely dull, the other well on its way, and this sheath didn't even get as much trimming as previous sheaths.

ZDP-189 is good stuff for sure.:thumbup:
 
ZDP usually chips because of incorrect knife usage or contact with something hard. My dads endura gets chipps weekly but he is not what you would call a smart knife user. ZDP is more prone to chip than other steels but in reality it takes some effort to do so.
 
knifenut1013 said:
ZDP usually chips because of incorrect knife usage or contact with something hard. My dads endura gets chipps weekly but he is not what you would call a smart knife user. ZDP is more prone to chip than other steels but in reality it takes some effort to do so.
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My ZDP microchipped whenever I cut cardboard with it. It just seems lo like to make those tiny chips rather than roll. Good to hear that this isn't the case with the OP.
 
I have never had any work knife that would maintain an honest, shaving razor edge after some good use. In fact, I haven't had much luck keeping a razor edge on any of my work knives. Pocket knives that cut up boxes, open mail, cut up apples, etc., yes. Work knives, not so much.

I was glad to see the ZDP do well in the hands of an experienced user. I appreciate the honest opinion, and have a couple of ZDP knives in my sights. I was wary of chipping, though.

The longer an edge can last for me through the day, the better off I am. I have heard and read so much on ZDP, it is hard to know what to think.

This may put a new spin on ZDP for me.

Robert
 
although the 189 did'nt chip on mud & the rough straw if i'm going out to cut all day i would go with gec1095 since edge touchup is easier. but for cardboard & tape in the workplace the zdp is choice since you ca'nt take a sharpener to work.
 
DennisStrickland said:
although the 189 did'nt chip on mud & the rough straw if i'm going out to cut all day i would go with gec1095 since edge touchup is easier. but for cardboard & tape in the workplace the zdp is choice since you ca'nt take a sharpener to work.
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I have done your type of testing with a 1095 fixed blade, and my ZT MUDD in 154 CM. Both of those knives were quite dull after one bale, but could be brought back quickly using non-power means.

I have a Spyderco Gayle Bradley in M4 which I haven't yet cut bales with, so I don't know how that steel will hold up, hopefully better than the 1095 and 154 CM.

But I've been eyeing a couple of knives in ZDP, I'm quite tempted!

Andy
 
Thanks for the report on your Endura, Dennis!

knifenut1013 said:
My dads endura gets chipps weekly but he is not what you would call a smart knife user.
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That depends. Does his son regularly fix the damage? :p Reminds me to remember to bring the DMT paddle when I see my dad (he keeps chipping his Centofante folder - maybe he needs something in ZDP?).
 
i have the bradley in m4 but that knife is too nice to gum up with mud & rot. ideally a 5 in. blade would make task easier . the bale was only tried since i wanted to go rough with the zdp. think i'll use becker 9 next.
 
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