Zero Cost Backpacking

Cougar Allen

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I posted a rant about the good old days recently, and that got me thinking ... how about going camping at ZERO cost?
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You kids today don't know how good you got it! When I wuz yer age I wuz grateful fer whut I had -- and you know whut I had? I had nuthin'! :mad:

Seriously, when I started backpacking I was in my early teens. I had no gear and no money. (But I wuz happy! :mad:) I read Colin Fletcher's Complete Walker (from the library, of course) so I knew about expensive gear, but there was no way I could afford any of that stuff. Fortunately I also had a 1940s era Boy Scout Handbook (an invaluable resource, far better than later editions) and the library had some of Bradford Angier's books. I made blanket pins out of wire coathangers -- make oversize safety pins and pin up an old wool blanket and you got yerself a sleeping bag. Not because I couldn't afford a good sleeping bag -- because I couldn't afford any sleeping bag! Eventually I got a display model that had been sitting in the window so long the sun had faded part of it, so I was able to get it for four or five dollars. Until then I used blanket pins or borrowed a sleeping bag.

I had a canvas knapsack that was smaller than the bookbags every kid has today. I had to tie my blanket roll or borrowed sleeping bag to the outside with imitation parachute cord. Cheap imitation parachute cord is fine for most purposes; most of the time you don't need 550 pounds tensile strength. Eventually I got an external frame pack at a discount store, and that was immensely better than the plain ol' knapsacks the kids I went camping with had. (Theirs were bigger than my little old knapsack, but no frame, no padding, no hip belt -- just a sack with shoulder straps, a flap on top, and one or two external pockets.) My frame pack was wonderful! On the second trip it broke where the bag attached to the frame; I lashed that corner of the bag to the frame with imitation parachute cord. It lasted me for years with a few repairs. I bought a padded hip belt for it, and later bought nice padded shoulder straps. I still have that pack, though I haven't used it for quite a while. It cost me more than $10, I think....

I had an army mess kit of my father's. It sucked. Then I bought a modern thin aluminum mess kit at a discount store. That sucked too. You can't buy anything that bad these days.... I made a pot out of a coffee can. I loved that pot; I used to brag on it and people would look at me funny.... I gave it a bail handle and bent a spout into it for pouring and made a lid from a peanut butter jar lid, cut it out with tin snips for the spout. It was lightweight and I believed it was far better than any storebought pot. I guess I still believe that, come to think of it.... I kept my pot and messkit in plastic bags and never cleaned off the carbon. The carbon coating distributes the heat more evenly.

I couldn't afford freeze-dried backpacking food. I ate canned food, mostly Spam. I pretty much lived on Spam when I went camping, and the guy I went camping with the most pretty much lived on Minute Rice. When we went camping together we shared. Canned food is heavy -- so we only carried a couple days worth. If we wanted to stay out longer we planted caches. I had several caches and kept them stocked.

Colin Fletcher made his Svea stove sound wonderful, but I couldn't possibly come up with that kind of money. I used Sterno and I built fires of twigs.

Water purification tablets cost money. I carried an eyedropper bottle of bleach -- two drops per quart and wait half an hour.

Some kids had pup tents but they sucked and they were expensive -- $20! Ackkkkkkkk! I preferred a plastic tarp. Even when I grew up and had money to buy a tent I didn't for a long time -- I decided a tarp is better. I still think a tarp is better most of the time. Bugs? Don't camp in a goldurn swamp you goldurn idjit! Camp on a ridge and use bug repellent to keep off the occasional mosquito that might go that high. I camped mostly in hot weather and my favorite tarp configuration was to raise the bottom six inches or a foot above the ground for ventilation. I used a plastic poncho for a ground cloth. Sometimes I used two ponchos instead of a poncho and tarp.

My loaded pack weighed about the same as Colin Fletcher's. I didn't have food for as long but I used caches. I didn't carry unnecessary junk like binoculars, camera, stove (which I couldn't afford anyway, of course).... I ended up with the same weight as him. Nyaa nyaaaa! :p

The big investments were the external frame pack -- discount store junk-grade, but immensely better for heavy loads than a knapsack, and the sleeping bag, also discount store junk-grade and discounted further for the sun damage, but better warmth to weight ratio than the old blankets I used previously. I didn't camp in cold weather. Oh, I bought an air mattress, too. The cheapest plastic ones (less than $2 then) didn't last so I saved up for a coated fabric one, the most expensive one the discount store had at about 8 or $9. I used it for swimming, too, got a lot of use out of it.
I didn't mention knives, did I. I carried a pocketknife at all times, various slip-joints and lockbacks. (I would lose them and buy a new one, and occasionally I would find the one I'd lost and then I would have two for a while!) I had an old Boy Scout knife that was too heavy and thick for comfortable pocket carry so I usually carried it in my pack. It had a can-opener blade and a leather punch. The can-opener was essential. The screwdriver and bottle opener and corkscrew, not so much.

Later I got a puukko and I would carry that in the woods (in addition to my pocketknife) just because I loved knives. I never did anything with it that I couldn't have done with my pocketknife. I never cut or split wood for a fire. There are plenty of dead birch trees in the woods around here and birchbark will get a fire going no matter how long it's been raining. My father had a hatchet I could have brought camping (my brother often did) but I considered it far too heavy. When I wanted to cut a sapling for a staff or a tarp pole I would whittle through it with my pocketknife like felling a tree with an axe. (I had never heard of batoning.)

I always had a compass, and eventually I bought a good Suunto compass. Before that it was toys, but they would point north.



Most of the people on this forum have all kinds of gear -- leave it home! Bring nothing that you bought in a camping store! That includes all sporting goods stores and the sporting goods sections of discount stores. No camping gear! :grumpy:

Pack
I guess everybody has a book bag these days, but if you want to be fanatic about it roll your gear up in your blanket, tie it in several places (with rope, not string -- rope is much easier to work with especially untying), double it up and sling it from one shoulder to the opposite hip like a bandoleer. Tie the ends together with another bit of rope. Change shoulders whenever you feel like it. That's the way medieval soldiers did it....

Cooking
If your wife or mother won't let you raid the kitchen you can go to the Goodwill -- but no camping gear, not even if you find it at a thrift store! The pans you find in your kitchen or at the Goodwill won't have folding handles. It doesn't matter! You can pack it without folding the handle just as well. :)

If you don't have an old wool blanket or two (a quilt could be even better) in a closet you can raid the Goodwill for that too, but no down mummy bags for this trip, even if the Goodwill has one for sale.

The cheap flatware at the Goodwill is likely to be lighter weight than what you have at home. Wrap it in a plastic bag.

When I was a kid I thought a grill was essential. I would make them out of heavy wire and try to balance them on rocks or green logs and put my pot on the grill. Not a good idea; it always tips and collapses and falls off and spills. It's better to just set the pot right on the coals.

You can make an alcohol stove or a hobo stove or just make fires with twigs if that's not a fire hazard where and when you're camping.

Food
You don't actually have to live on nothing but Spam and Minute Rice; you can dine in luxury on food you find in your pantry or at the supermarket. Don't mind if it's heavy; you'll only be carrying a couple days' worth. If you want to stay out longer you can plant caches like I did.

Shelter
The ultralight approach is to buy the cheapest plastic shower curtain liner you can find (because the cheapest is the thinnest). You don't need grommets. Wrap the plastic around a smooth rock and tie it off with cord.

No 550 cord! Cheaper cord that size is easy to find, and you don't need it to be all that strong. I recommend against polypropylene, though; it doesn't hold knots well. It's usable if you know the right knots, but cord that can hold a square knot is more convenient.

Knife
We all have knives, and I don't suppose I could convince you to leave your favorite knife home if I tried, but ... let's raid the kitchen drawer. I bet you can find something there that you can sharpen up and make a sheath for (use cardboard & tape if you don't have leather or plastic) and I bet you'll find it works.

Water Purification
Two drops of Clorox per quart and wait half an hour. Frankly the water tastes heavily chlorinated. You can boil water when convenient.

I am suggesting this just as much for the old hands who have everything and have done everything as for the beginners who don't have any gear anyway. If you've already explored everything in your local area and can't think of anything interesting to do with only an overnight or a weekend available -- try leaving all your gear home!
 
What did I leave out? One point I wanted to make is if your gear isn't the best and it breaks down in the field -- you can fix it! Bring cord, a heavy sewing needle and heavy thread, some duck tape, and you can splint a broken packframe, patch your pack, tape rips in your groundcloth....

Food can be perishable, for the first day or two. You can have a weinie roast. You can bring bread, cookies ...
 
I have to say, I was already forming the idea for this in my head before you posted this, but after... now that CA is challenging me, I will have to try this!

My stuff is mostly midrange- nice down, but not ultralight; while I've camped a lot I never could figure out posting in this forum as I've had problems codifying what bushcraft was vs. camping, and how I could "bushcraft" as opposed to "take my gear out into the woods and live with it". The posts you made really made it simple enough I'm actually going to go out WITHOUT much nice stuff and IMPROVISE as opposed to packing everything I could need.

This, IMO, is one of the best posts for me I've seen here, as I feel a way to engage myself in the WSS style!

Zero
 
Bring nothing that you bought in a camping store!

Well, I guess it's good that I never buy anything in a camping store, then. I buy all my gear off the internets. :D :p :D

But seriously, I look wistfully at some of the ultralight backpacking techniques that I've seen discussed here and on other sites. Things like wood burning stoves, for example, sound really cool to me. But the reality of it is, when hiking in California, often times open fires are banned (I assume even in a wood burning stove) because of the fire danger, and even if they aren't banned I'm told you're supposed to pack out your ashes, especially if backpacking in the Sierra Nevada. (This has something to do with protecting the Ph values in the lakes and streams. Don't ask me for details. The first time I heard about this was a couple of weeks ago.)

You can't go anywhere in California without a back country permit. My research suggests that before Fish & Game will give you a back country permit for a lot of places, they want to see that you have a bear proof food container, and it has to be one of the ones that they approve of. The one I'm looking at weighs in at a little over 2 lbs. So much for ultralight.

And, yes, I'm going to camp with a tarp instead of a tent. But I'm going to get one of those fancy sil-nylon tarps (although I won't get it out of a camping store), and I don't care what you grumpy old men think about it. ;)

And I'm going to use a fancy-schmancy white gas burning stove with titanium cook pots because I own them and I intend to get my money's worth out of them.

I know, I know, I have a crappy bad attitude. :D
 
I believe wood-burning stoves are allowed everywhere even when open fires are prohibited. If there are exceptions I hope somebody will correct me.

A camera is legal as long as you didn't buy it in a camping store. (Yes, internet stores count! :grumpy:)

I think you'll find a cheap shower curtain liner (or thin plastic sheeting you can get at a paint store) is just as light as that expensive silnylon tarp. It won't roll up into as small a package, and of course it won't last as long (but if you keep going to the dollar store or the paint store every time you need a new tarp for the rest of your life, I doubt you'll spend as much as a silnylon tarp costs. Maybe if you live to be a hundred....) Anyway I am not trying to put the silnylon tarp manufacturers out of business; I think silnylon is way cool. I am only arguing it isn't necessary.
 
Bedding
I guess everybody has the kind of sleeping bag I used as a kid -- rectangular, $20-30 at Walmart (now), the lining is likely to be cotton.... Even people who have never been camping have them to sleep over at someone else's house. So I guess that's legal.

I was the only kid in town who used an air mattress. Everybody else thought they were too cold (sometimes they are) and not worth the trouble of blowing up. Everybody else just slept on a ground sheet. Maybe we'd kick some leaves into a pile before laying the ground sheet down.

Hammocks
There are posts on this forum about making your own hammock. One says you can make a hammock out of a king-size sheet, and I've been meaning to try that. I'm planning to use a black sheet if I can't get olive green ... definitely not white.

Weather
I admit I didn't go camping in the winter -- but I did everything else but sleep out. I didn't go out if an all-day torrential downpour was forecast, but I often went out when there was a chance of showers during the night, and sometimes it did rain. If it was hot but there was a chance of rain I often set up a tarp shelter and then slept outside it, figuring if it rained I would roll under it.

Real Backpacking
If you haul your gear half a mile into the woods and set up camp and that's where you stay, that ain't no backpacking. That's just car camping (or backyard camping). You can haul tremendous weight half a mile, or make two trips. It isn't backpacking unless you're walking for hours every day -- with your pack; hiking out from your base camp without a pack isn't backpacking either. :grumpy:
 
I believe wood-burning stoves are allowed everywhere even when open fires are prohibited. If there are exceptions I hope somebody will correct me.

I just wrote to a California Fish & Game public information officer to see if California has any regulations governing wood-burning backpacking stoves during wildfire season. I'll let you know what they say, as soon as they say it.
 
Bedding
I guess everybody has the kind of sleeping bag I used as a kid -- rectangular, $20-30 at Walmart (now), the lining is likely to be cotton.... Even people who have never been camping have them to sleep over at someone else's house. So I guess that's legal.

I was the only kid in town who used an air mattress. Everybody else thought they were too cold (sometimes they are) and not worth the trouble of blowing up. Everybody else just slept on a ground sheet. Maybe we'd kick some leaves into a pile before laying the ground sheet down.

Hammocks
There are posts on this forum about making your own hammock. One says you can make a hammock out of a king-size sheet, and I've been meaning to try that. I'm planning to use a black sheet if I can't get olive green ... definitely not white.

Weather
I admit I didn't go camping in the winter -- but I did everything else but sleep out. I didn't go out if an all-day torrential downpour was forecast, but I often went out when there was a chance of showers during the night, and sometimes it did rain. If it was hot but there was a chance of rain I often set up a tarp shelter and then slept outside it, figuring if it rained I would roll under it.

Real Backpacking
If you haul your gear half a mile into the woods and set up camp and that's where you stay, that ain't no backpacking. That's just car camping (or backyard camping). You can haul tremendous weight half a mile, or make two trips. It isn't backpacking unless you're walking for hours every day -- with your pack; hiking out from your base camp without a pack isn't backpacking either. :grumpy:

You know something: as a kid, I spent more than one trip in the woods carrying nothing more than a knife, a fire-starting kit, a bit of cordage, and a potato. I also ate various parts of cat tails, scrounged for edibles in the bushes, and did other "survival" type things. There were adults in my life who wanted to make sure that I could get along in the north woods with the absolute bare essentials if need be, so they tested me.

Having done that, I'm here to tell you that being hot, cold, dirty, sweaty, hungry, and sleeping in a debris shelter along with the ticks and mosquitoes and the deer flies blows big fat chunks. Been there, done that.

Maybe I'm just getting old and crotchety, but as far as I'm concerned, if I can afford a fat wallet full of sweet gear designed to make my stay in the wilderness more pleasant, then why shouldn't I do that?

Or is the difference that some people think they need that fat wallet worth of gear, and you're trying to convince them that they don't? If so, please ignore my yipping.

Yes, everyone should spend at least a few days in the woods at some point in their lives with the absolute minimum gear, just to prove to themselves that they can do it. But I wouldn't recommend making a habit out of it.
 
some people think they need that fat wallet worth of gear, and you're trying to convince them that they don't?
Yes. If you glance over the last few days in this forum you'll see what provoked this thread. Or you could follow the link in the quote in my first post to find one of the threads that provoked this one (there were more than one).

If so, please ignore my yipping.
But your yipping is entertaining! :)
 
Funny. I think about this as I look at all the stuff I own now. As a kid I just went out and camped with what I could scrounge and carry from around the house. Not much, even from your list.
 
Isn't it weird that as a kid sometimes the simplest stuff brought more joy than all of the cool stuff that we have to have now that we are older. I think part of the key was that when we were kids we didn't have nagging responsibilities such as a job, mortugage, etc. and people counting on us to weigh heavy on our minds. We were just that--kids. When we were out and about "playing" we may have wished that we had some of the nicer stuff but in our egocentric little minds we were living for the moment and having fun. I know that this is impossible for me to do ever since I started college. I have never had real "fun" like I remember having as a kid. It's one of those facts of life that looking back we can now appreciate but when we were kids we always looked at adults and thought to ourselves, "they just don't want to have fun." It's not that "they" didn't want to have fun, it's just that "they" are like "we" are now and they had a million things on their mind which causes stress and doensn't allow for the fun that a stress free child can have.

O.K. I'll get off my soapbox now! Thanks for listening to my rant.
 
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Real Backpacking
If you haul your gear half a mile into the woods and set up camp and that's where you stay, that ain't no backpacking. That's just car camping (or backyard camping). You can haul tremendous weight half a mile, or make two trips. It isn't backpacking unless you're walking for hours every day -- with your pack; hiking out from your base camp without a pack isn't backpacking either. :grumpy:[/QUOTE]

I love it. Last time I paid for a camp ground spot, we used it to park the car. We paddled across a lake and 3 hours up a stream to this great secluded lake. It was awesome. No people for two days. Just tons of fish and a great time. Rolled back in two days later and the other car campers were like " What happened to you guys?" We went camping. I told them. Don't think they understood.
 
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