Zero Tolerance 0560/0561

News for 0560/0561:

Per Thomas, 0560 is slated for December, 0561 for January. They're coming! :) :thumbup:
 
The 0561 I have on pre-order will take the place
of my Emerson Super Commander as my EDC.
January can't come soon enough!!
 
My question is, will the 560 be ready in time to make it under my Xmas tree?!?! How close are we to seeing these?
 
This is ZT we're talking about, if you guys remember what happened with the 550, I find it hard to believe they'll make deadline with the 0560... none of the knives that Kershaw introduced in 2011 SHOT are even going to hit shelves this year which is pretty funny
 
Chris_Himself said:
This is ZT we're talking about, if you guys remember what happened with the 550, I find it hard to believe they'll make deadline with the 0560... none of the knives that Kershaw introduced in 2011 SHOT are even going to hit shelves this year which is pretty funny
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Uhh... yeah they did...
 
Chris_Himself said:
This is ZT we're talking about, if you guys remember what happened with the 550
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I remember. There was a delay in the steel (VANAX 35) from Uddeholm, so in an effort to move the project along and meet the demand from our customer, we did up an LE 0551 with ELMAX. We could have just kept with the V35 waiting game (of which we'd still be waiting), but instead did steel change to S35VN, made some further refinements to the model, and now the 0550's are out.

Unfortunately there are many factors that as a manufacturer, are out your control. This can cause delays, in some cases long delays.

Sure wish it was like making pepperoni pizza, but perhaps we're bitten by the, I want it now generation here.


I find it hard to believe they'll make deadline with the 0560...
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Based on the popularity of our 2 brands, a 2011 factory expansion, a pretty outrageous back ordered situation, exceeding capacity, and pushing limits with technology and performance, if the 0560 makes it out 6 month after it's debut IMO that rocks!

none of the knives that Kershaw introduced in 2011 SHOT are even going to hit shelves this year which is pretty funny
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I'll qualify this for you, as you're probably not speaking about the imports we introduced this year (which all are on the market), but instead are talking about the USA produced Knockout, Echelon, and Piston. Well a run of Knockouts have been on the market for a month or so, Echelons are due this month, and Pistons in January 2012.

Sorry we're not getting it done fast enough for some, we'll try and do better to keep up with sharp demands.

Between getting knockoff'd by smaller wannabe brands, and hearing it about delivery times from upset customers, I feel more confident about changes to our approach, both with First Looks here, and even at Shows like SHOT and Blade. We've looked within our new offering business model and realize the early release of images, proto's, and spec's cause eye rolling, sarcasm, and complaints. This overshadows our overall good intentions and enthusiasm.

At SHOT next month no new USA branded ZT or Kershaw will be introduced. This is sad and boring IMO, but again it's a new approach for us in 2012. When we show it, we'll be ready to ship it.

It's funny how good intentions create bad situations. Lesson learned.
 
Well, I have had a 0561 on pre order for awhile and though I can't wait to get my hands on one, I'd much rather have a quality product that's ready to be released. Thanks for the efforts!



Thomas W said:
It's funny how good intentions create bad situations. Lesson learned.
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man there is going to be a feeding frenzy. People though spyderco is having problems keeping yojimbos on the shelf, as awesome as the yojimbo is there is no way it can compete with this. This model was destined to be popular from the minute we saw it.

I cant wait. :D
 
Thomas W said:
I remember. There was a delay in the steel (VANAX 35) from Uddeholm, so in an effort to move the project along and meet the demand from our customer, we did up an LE 0551 with ELMAX. We could have just kept with the V35 waiting game (of which we'd still be waiting), but instead did steel change to S35VN, made some further refinements to the model, and now the 0550's are out.

Unfortunately there are many factors that as a manufacturer, are out your control. This can cause delays, in some cases long delays.

Sure wish it was like making pepperoni pizza, but perhaps we're bitten by the, I want it now generation here.


Based on the popularity of our 2 brands, a 2011 factory expansion, a pretty outrageous back ordered situation, exceeding capacity, and pushing limits with technology and performance, if the 0560 makes it out 6 month after it's debut IMO that rocks!

I'll qualify this for you, as you're probably not speaking about the imports we introduced this year (which all are on the market), but instead are talking about the USA produced Knockout, Echelon, and Piston. Well a run of Knockouts have been on the market for a month or so, Echelons are due this month, and Pistons in January 2012.

Sorry we're not getting it done fast enough for some, we'll try and do better to keep up with sharp demands.

Between getting knockoff'd by smaller wannabe brands, and hearing it about delivery times from upset customers, I feel more confident about changes to our approach, both with First Looks here, and even at Shows like SHOT and Blade. We've looked within our new offering business model and realize the early release of images, proto's, and spec's cause eye rolling, sarcasm, and complaints. This overshadows our overall good intentions and enthusiasm.

At SHOT next month no new USA branded ZT or Kershaw will be introduced. This is sad and boring IMO, but again it's a new approach for us in 2012. When we show it, we'll be ready to ship it.

It's funny how good intentions create bad situations. Lesson learned.
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Kershaw rep responds within 24hr's of me posting the slightest dissatisfaction about their due dates? Now sir, I truly believe you guys are doing everything in your power to get the projects moving along.

I really respect that you folks aren't going to introduce new products for 2012, with the saturation of the vast number of models, I doubt you'd want to add more to your plate considering that the 2011 SHOT debuts are coming out in January... I doubt there is enough time and resources to start manufacturing lines for newer products. I've always liked Kershaw for their simplicity although with the sub-$100 folders I've always wanted more out of the knives as a collector I felt I hit a plateau. The 2011 products change that radically so you'll have to pardon my irritability when I wanted the knife the day I saw Nutnfancy's 2011 SHOT coverage of the Kershaw booth!

I mean look at all the great models you guys have coming out with materials and technology that would really put a hurtin' on the rest of the market!

I was just irked when I saw you guys released limited runs of more knives the majority of us weren't shopping for like the sprint run of the Tilt and some other offerings... I was specifically waiting for the US-made products.

Lots of manufacturers release product specs way too far in advance so that the hype really dies down, now please keep in mind I only speak for myself, but I appreciate that you guys are very sure and you want to let people know what stuff is coming out that you have set in motion to produce, but when you have something like a 10 month wait for a 50 dollar knife, it really really hurts consumer morale. I've bought like 800 dollars worth of folders and balisongs in the time I've been waiting for you guys!

No doubt the 0560 will find loads of esteem as soon as it comes out, it's just that it's really been a while and the way 2011 has rolled out, I've put $0 into Kershaw so far not by choice, but because I couldn't find something new to buy which is sad because you guys are in my top 3 manufacturers.
 
Chris_Himself said:
Kershaw rep responds within 24hr's of me posting the slightest dissatisfaction about their due dates?
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Kershaw rep is the mod here, and monitors multiple times a day. Dissatisfaction, satisfaction...either way it gets addressed when said Kershaw reps deems it necessary.

Now sir, I truly believe you guys are doing everything in your power to get the projects moving along.
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It's true.

I really respect that you folks aren't going to introduce new products for 2012, with the saturation of the vast number of models, I doubt you'd want to add more to your plate considering that the 2011 SHOT debuts are coming out in January... I doubt there is enough time and resources to start manufacturing lines for newer products.
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I'll qualify again for you, and believe you're speaking about USA made intro's for 2012. There will be a handful of imports available.

One of our reasons for change does fall on the voices of disgruntled customers like yourself, ones that have complaints about the length of time it takes knives to come to market. I'm unsure how long that should be, but our change will ensure this specific noise is kept to a minimum. On the flip side, I'm sure there will be similar noise about no news on upcoming projects, but I've come to know you just can't please all parties that have a voice.


I was just irked when I saw you guys released limited runs of more knives the majority of us weren't shopping for like the sprint run of the Tilt and some other offerings...
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The USA made Tilt has been scheduled for some time. I'm unsure how to address your claim of the majority shopping desires vs. our production. Sales are pretty strong.

Lots of manufacturers release product specs way too far in advance so that the hype really dies down, now please keep in mind I only speak for myself, but I appreciate that you guys are very sure and you want to let people know what stuff is coming out that you have set in motion to produce, but when you have something like a 10 month wait for a 50 dollar knife, it really really hurts consumer morale. I've bought like 800 dollars worth of folders and balisongs in the time I've been waiting for you guys!
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We're learning everyday how to satisfy.

No doubt the 0560 will find loads of esteem as soon as it comes out, it's just that it's really been a while and the way 2011 has rolled out, I've put $0 into Kershaw so far not by choice, but because I couldn't find something new to buy which is sad because you guys are in my top 3 manufacturers.
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Again I don't know what the time frame is on that delivery window, but know that we're shortening it up.
 
Well you've got me beat, good sir!

Time to hope back in line for an 0560 :)

Thanks for the positive customer service, I had no idea Kershaw was so involved on the internet knife community and that everything you guys do is customer driven.
 
I can't speak for anyone but myself but I'm fairly certain that most of us wanted one of the new models the second we saw them. The thing is we're not children, so waiting until ZT is good and ready to release these knives isn't going to kill any of us.....even if it feels like it may at times. The fact of the matter is the very first ZT/Kershaw knife I ever bought was the 0551 and it took all of a few seconds to realize that it is without a doubt the nicest Titanium framelock I've ever purchased for less then $300 and has totally redefined my expectations at the $200 price point.

I can't wait to get my hands the new 0650 but I'll gladly wait until they're good and ready to be released.
Thanks!
 
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