ZT 0200 Knife Group,.... Interesting Observations........

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One of the benefits of getting in a reasonable sampling of any product,.....is that you can often observe subtle differences in the manufacturing process. Such was the case with me tonight as i had the pleasure of closely examining the (15) Zero Tolerance knives i just recieved. (ZT 0200 & ZT 0200ST Models).

While these are certainly considered production knives by most anyone's definition,.......it is also quite apparent there is still considerable "hand work" involved in each and every one,.....NO mistake about that! These knives, as you would expect from a company with the Kershaw reputation,.....contain substantial hand fitting in many areas. Fit and finish were surperb across the board!

Outwardly they appear almost identicle with their bethrin,......but having a long time jewelry repair backround and a fairly observant eye, (and a pretty handy headband magnifer once used daily for jewelry work),......i was able to clarify and compare the subtle differences between them.

I especially enjoyed looking at the lockup areas under magnification,.......and it became apparent that there was an acceptable "range" of where the liner lock could end up and still provide a strong lockup.

On some samples the lock ended up square in the center of the blade ,.....and on others it ended up at least the full thickness of the liner lock,......but never quite makes it to the center.

These might possibly have a bit more longevity built in, if you will,.....because i would think over hard usage over a very long time the lock areas will seat in a bit deeper thru wear,.......and the inward pressure of the liner lock will adjust to keep a firm lockup.

Thinking out loud here, if the lock is already in the center of the blade,.....then as wear occurs there may reach a point where the lock doesn't spring beyond the center of the blade to make firm contact with it to insure firm lockup. As i have not had one apart to examine just how far the lock will spring inward,.......not really sure if this is how it will work.

One thing i know for sure,......before it ever gets there thru use,..... i'll likely be long dead and my son will have to continue the "experiment"! :D

My gut tells me i'm a bit better off using my personal unit with a lock that is fully centered in the blade,.......as it would have to fight the spring in the lock before coming off the blade over a longer distance in an extreme situation!

As i'm already missing the tip of my right index finger thru a motorcycle/chain mishap when i was sixteen,......... maybe i'm being overly protective of my digits! :o

One other obversation,........there was a range of effort needed to disengage the lock to close each knife. Most of them felt about the same,......but there were a few of the 15 that felt to have about a 50% greater strength in the spring effort to get it to release. My thought here is that the tempering process varies a bit between samples,.......as it does for all springs. I chose a plain and a partially serrated model for my personal carry with the noticably "harder" spring.

With the easily adjustable pivot pressure, it's a simple matter to get the knives to flick open at whatever preference you desire,.........but right from the factory most were pretty good as is. Only two i would prefer to loosen a bit,.......as they were fairly tight and hurt my flipping finger a little. Of course i had been flipping for several hours,.......so i had fatigued my finger anyway!

I left those as is,.........never know when i might need a knife to pass the "hold by the blade and see if the handle drops test" if i ever go to New York City! :mad:

A final note:.............because i had multiple units,......i did notice these are actually individually serial numbered. When i only had 1 piece, i just assumed the other numbers were a lot number or such,.....nope,.....actual serial numbers!

This should straighten out any disagreement over whose knife it is,......should the knife be "borrowed" by a co-worked or family member! :grumpy:
 
Joe,

You're not helping Friday get here any quicker by describing how excellent these ZT 0200 folders are!.:D.:D. If I could have, I'd have driven up to the Olympia, WA Post Office today, (where the ZT 0200 that you sent to me is sitting 'tilll Friday), and brought it home with me today.

Friday is going to be a GREAT day!.:thumbup:.:thumbup:.

---Dann (glockman99)
 
Great writeup and some excellent observations. I am carrying my 0200 tonight as I type this. One thing I think about the liner is it is hardened steel, along with the blade being hardened. I don't know the rockwell for either but would think they are close to the same, and I think much less likely to wear. If it had been titanium then wear would be more of a factor.
Of course I could be wrong and it might wear as rapidly as titanium seems to, but I hope not! Again, an EXCELLENT read.. Thanks!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
Great write up joejeweler. :thumbup:

I think the ZT0200 is probably the best folder KAI makes. I like all of Kershaws knives, but the ZT0200 is my best heavy folder.

I had bought a ZT0200 a while back from Jeff Gastra and donated it to a soldier going to Iraq but couldn't live without one so I bought myself another one. I also donated a ZT0400 to another soldier, but he used it for a while and decided to buy a ZT0200 becuse it was heavier so I got the ZT0400 back, I had already bought another ZT0400 as well, so that one went to another lucky soldier as a gift.

Guess you can't ever have enough ZT's.
 
Sorry about that,:D.............

........i take it you didn't have transportation to do it then? Earlier at work i did a mapquest inquiry and found it was only about 50 miles to where your ZT 0200 is sitting,......and YOU!

Now THAT really sucks! :grumpy:

Joe,

You're not helping Friday get here any quicker by describing how excellent these ZT 0200 folders are!.:D.:D. If I could have, I'd have driven up to the Olympia, WA Post Office today, (where the ZT 0200 that you sent to me is sitting 'tilll Friday), and brought it home with me today.

Friday is going to be a GREAT day!.:thumbup:.:thumbup:.

---Dann (glockman99)
 
Nice gesture on your part with the soldiers, CARman! :thumbup:

.........as far as the best folder KAI makes,.......i won't argue with that. Built like a tank, cuts like a champ, feels like a part of my hand,.........and dirt cheap IMO. No, i don't even want to use that term.......as there is nothing but quality in it's make up. Still can't figure out how you get so much knife for the money,.......and it's made it the USA to boot.

............must be the folks that make them are REALLY effecient!

Hell,......most folks earn enough in a day or two at their jobs to get a knife that will hold up to heavy use for the rest of their life! Unbelievable..............

I'm still planning on trying a few other models,.......the MUDDer being one as i like the way the clip is at the very top! This should make it all but dissappear down my pants as a backup knife. The seals should make it a great fishing knife,.......'cept maybe a bit larger than you actually need. But the fish won't care and i'll get to let the other guys drool a bit!

Psssss..............i'm kinda worried,..... Just between you and me,.......if we keep talking about how great the ZT 0200 is, and Kershaw gets wind of it,.......

.......they might just figure they are selling these way too cheap! And they'd be right!!! ;)

.....the way i figure it,.....if KAI nets $5 to $10 on one of these at the wholesale level,.......i'd be surprised.


....i bet Thomas knows,..........and he ain't talking! :D



Great write up joejeweler. :thumbup:

I think the ZT0200 is probably the best folder KAI makes. I like all of Kershaws knives, but the ZT0200 is my best heavy folder.

I had bought a ZT0200 a while back from Jeff Gastra and donated it to a soldier going to Iraq but couldn't live without one so I bought myself another one. I also donated a ZT0400 to another soldier, but he used it for a while and decided to buy a ZT0200 becuse it was heavier so I got the ZT0400 back, I had already bought another ZT0400 as well, so that one went to another lucky soldier as a gift.

Guess you can't ever have enough ZT's.
 
I totally agree with the cost vs. the quality. First time I took the knife out of the box I wondered how Kershaw could offer such a fine piece of cutlery for the price I paid! It is simply outstanding!
 
Joe,

You're not helping Friday get here any quicker by describing how excellent these ZT 0200 folders are!.:D.:D. If I could have, I'd have driven up to the Olympia, WA Post Office today, (where the ZT 0200 that you sent to me is sitting 'tilll Friday), and brought it home with me today.

Friday is going to be a GREAT day!.:thumbup:.:thumbup:.

---Dann (glockman99)



waiting with ya... can't wait to hear what you think!
 
Joe,

You're not helping Friday get here any quicker by describing how excellent these ZT 0200 folders are!.:D.:D. If I could have, I'd have driven up to the Olympia, WA Post Office today, (where the ZT 0200 that you sent to me is sitting 'tilll Friday), and brought it home with me today.

Friday is going to be a GREAT day!.:thumbup:.:thumbup:.

---Dann (glockman99)

Yeah, when you get it, just remember to keep all fingers and toes
in their upright positions. :)

mike
 
Yeah, when you get it, just remember to keep all fingers and toes in their upright positions. :)

mike
Mike...Before I even open up the ZT 0200 package (hopefully tomorrow), I'm going to have a good supply of Bandaids, pressure dressings, duct tape, Superglue, & chicken wire handy and ready, just in-case I end-up accidently cutting any of my body parts with that monster of a folder.:D.:D.
 
Mike...Before I even open up the ZT 0200 package (hopefully tomorrow), I'm going to have a good supply of Bandaids, pressure dressings, duct tape, Superglue, & chicken wire handy and ready, just in-case I end-up accidently cutting any of my body parts with that monster of a folder.:D.:D.

Did you get my email by chance???

mike
 
I agree with everyone on this board, the ZT 0200 is one amazing knife for what you pay for. When I first saw it and checked locally for the price, I could not believe how reasonable the price was. After getting it in my hot shaking hands (you'll feel this way too glockman :) ) I could not fathom how they managed to do all they (Kershaw) had and yet charge me so little for it. I felt almost guilty buying it.
For sure an amazing knife and I hope Kershaw keeps providing us with these extreme price to quality to performance ratios!
 
....................must be a "Loss Leader". ;)

........our own "Field Of Dreams",.................

..........."If They Build It,......We Will Buy!"
 
thanks to you joe,i had to go and trade for a zt 0200 earler this week.and it showed up today! needless to say i've been playing with it the last four hours! when you were doing yor review did you try the clip in all four postions? it seems that mine doesn't want accept the screws on the rightside tip up postion. the screws go though the g-10 alright,but not in the liner. there are holes for the screws i just have to figure out how to make them bigger.
 
Hi,....i'm a rightee so the original clip position has been fine for me.

Dann did change his to tip down and had no problem,.........not sure if he swapped sides also.

You might try loosening up the frame assembly screws a little and shift the scales just a bit. Then see if you can get the clip screws in and re-tighten the frame screws.

It wouldn't take much to be off preventing the clip screws to be centered over the holes in the liners...................

thanks to you joe,i had to go and trade for a zt 0200 earler this week.and it showed up today! needless to say i've been playing with it the last four hours! when you were doing yor review did you try the clip in all four postions? it seems that mine doesn't want accept the screws on the rightside tip up postion. the screws go though the g-10 alright,but not in the liner. there are holes for the screws i just have to figure out how to make them bigger.
 
Hi,....i'm a rightee so the original clip position has been fine for me.

Dann did change his to tip down and had no problem,.........not sure if he swapped sides also.

You might try loosening up the frame assembly screws a little and shift the scales just a bit. Then see if you can get the clip screws in and re-tighten the frame screws.

It wouldn't take much to be off preventing the clip screws to be centered over the holes in the liners...................
Yes, I moved the clip to tip-up, left hand carry. No problems. Have you tried screwing in the screws without the clip in-place just to make sure that the holes are right, and threaded? You might want to try that, then if the screws go in ok in the "dry run", then they should also go in ok with the clip in-place, with the holes matched up.
 
i tried to put the screws in without the clip,the screws go though the g-10 easily but do not go in the liner. i guess i will have to take it apart. when i move the clip to the three other postions it works fine. thanks for the advice.:)
 
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