ZT 0777 - Are they still shipping?

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I just called the dealer that I placed my ZT-0777 pre-order with, back in 12/11, and he thinks that they're not going to receive ANY ZT-0777's.

Just wanted to check and see if anyone from KAI can confirm if the 0777's are still being shipped to dealers as the batches are completed or is the run completed and shipped out?

Thanks!
 
I emailed them a few weeks back. I was told they only released approximately 100 and that the rest would come when they worked through an issue they were having with the damascus and copper. Sounded like we would be seeing more. Excited to get one.
 
I emailed them a few weeks back. I was told they only released approximately 100 and that the rest would come when they worked through an issue they were having with the damascus and copper. Sounded like we would be seeing more. Excited to get one.

That's good to hear. So there are only ~ 100 out in the "wild" currently?

I'm optimistic. Sure hope it works out - I've been eagerly anticipating this knife for quite a long time.
 
Figured some info might come out at the Blade show later this wk. Hopefully some new sweet knives as well! :)
 
I emailed them a few weeks back. I was told they only released approximately 100 and that the rest would come when they worked through an issue they were having with the damascus and copper. Sounded like we would be seeing more. Excited to get one.

100 or 1000?
 
100? How is that possible, I've seen the serial number over 200s already, don't they go in order?
 
100? How is that possible, I've seen the serial number over 200s already, don't they go in order?

For whatever reason, blades get kicked out. Ti slabs get kicked out. CF gets kicked out. A sprint run of say, 250, might see 350 or more produced. Then the QC takes over, and the ones that don't pass are pulled out. Therefore the blades are numbered in sequence, not after the final QC inspection lets the knife out the door. And before anyone asks, Thomas has said there won't be blems on these high end sprint runs.

I think if you do a search, you'll find a more complete answer from jimmer_5...
 
100? How is that possible, I've seen the serial number over 200s already, don't they go in order?

INSIDE A ZT LIMITED RUN by Thomas Welk, KAI/ZT Director of Sales and Marketing:

INSIDE A ZT LIMITED RUN

05.20.2013

Both of our brands, Zero Tolerance Knives and Kershaw Knives, have "boutique" or limited edition runs that show up on occasion. While these limited edition knives are not our core business, we do enjoy creating them for our valued customers.

We always produce these knives to be used. When it comes to specifications, quality, and technology, they incorporate the latest and greatest our industry has to offer. We don't build these knives as an investment, but we do understand that some of our past and present limited runs are quite popular, and have a strong secondary presence in the marketplace. Yet it does pain us to think of any of these knives as "safe queens," that is, knives that are kept for their value rather than their utility.

When we do these special runs, we may put out a target number of knives we hope to produce. This is never an exact number, but an estimate that assists our Sales Dept. when selling to our dealer base. The target number is just that, a target. In fact, of all the boutique runs we have produced, we have never hit the target number of our estimated production run exactly.

Production considerations play a large role in how many of any specific product are actually manufactured. There can be "fall out," complications, and some knives in the run can even be scrapped entirely if the knife is particularly challenging to make. In these cases, the number of knives produced can fall short of the intended target. The opposite is also true. There can be less "fall out" (we hope!), and products can come together even better than projected.

For these reasons, it is impossible to work to exact target numbers. The reality of production is that the actual number will be whatever it is. Shortages bring on frustrations from the dealers, as there isn't enough to go around. Overages usually make our dealers happy, as there is more than enough product to satisfy demand. For end users, a boutique run that doesn't meet its target can be considered rare and desirable. This is what happens with most of our limited editions.

—Thomas Welk, Director of Sales & Marketing, Sporting Division


Jimmer_5 is one of the moderators of this KAI forum and an employee of KAI:


Whenever we make a run of ANY knife, there is some fallout. A few parts are defective, a laser etched logo is crooked, a sharpener slips, an assembler scratches a coated blade. There is always a percentage that are blemished and therefore "fall out" of the run. Because Of this, when we plan on making 1000 knives, we generally make enough parts for around 1200-1500 depending on the complexity of the build (these numbers are not gospel, just estimates). I don't currently have an exact count of how many we produced of this particular knife, but it is most likely under 1000 pieces. It could be that we got lucky and more than 1000 pieces passed inspection. In my opinion, if we made a few extra, great! A few more customers got their hands on a hotly anticipated knife. They'll still be limited and collectible either way. I don't foresee too many people sending their 0560CBCF back because we made a few extra.

Thanks,

Jim
 
I was told about 300 have been shipped to date and the rest will follow soon.

I had #'s 115 and 212 so unless they had a large percentage not make it out the door, there's at least 200 or so out there.

 
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