zt801 bit me.

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DeAdEyE956

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Reached in my pocket to put my 801 up for the night and felt a small bite. Some how the tip of my pinky made contact with the point of the blade. I wont miss it or the 560 when I send them back for repair. My wife thought my BM infidel got me. "You were playing with it" with sarcasm she said.


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The 801- lock bar has a screw dragging on the blade pivot area. I wouldnt send it back if I werent sending the 560 back. Which is a much more serious issue.
560- lock bar isnt working. With the blade extended and lock bar engaged I can shut the blade without touching the lock bar. I would hate to think what would've happened if I was using it for hard cutting. I keep my blades pretty sharp for the most part. I probably could have needed stiches or another finger. Glad I was messing with it. I still love the 560.
 
DeAdEyE956 said:
The 801- lock bar has a screw dragging on the blade pivot area. I wouldnt send it back if I werent sending the 560 back. Which is a much more serious issue.
560- lock bar isnt working. With the blade extended and lock bar engaged I can shut the blade without touching the lock bar. I would hate to think what would've happened if I was using it for hard cutting. I keep my blades pretty sharp for the most part. I probably could have needed stiches or another finger. Glad I was messing with it. I still love the 560.
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The solution to that is to branch away from the framelock fad. Invest in a lock mechanism that doesn't have multiple issues.
 
Moxy said:
Axis Lock!
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Yup, this, or a compression lock, or the tri-ad lock. With a framelock or even a liner lock, the potential for wear to loosen the lock is much greater as only the face interacts with the blade. On the three locks mentioned above, the lock actually forms a wall against a cutout section of the blade. This means that even if wear develops the lock will still keep the blade in place as opposed to slipping off to the side because there isn't enough contact between blade and lock, as on well worn liner and frame locks.

That isn't to say there aren't awesome liner and frame locks out there. I just find them to be inferior locks and prefer more expensive knives to be more reliable than that. Plus you always hear about having to "break in" a framelock. Forgive me, but I've never had to do that with an axis or compression. Smooth as silk.:thumbup:
 
RemyKaze said:
Yup, this, or a compression lock, or the tri-ad lock. With a framelock or even a liner lock, the potential for wear to loosen the lock is much greater as only the face interacts with the blade. On the three locks mentioned above, the lock actually forms a wall against a cutout section of the blade. This means that even if wear develops the lock will still keep the blade in place as opposed to slipping off to the side because there isn't enough contact between blade and lock, as on well worn liner and frame locks.

That isn't to say there aren't awesome liner and frame locks out there. I just find them to be inferior locks and prefer more expensive knives to be more reliable than that. Plus you always hear about having to "break in" a framelock. Forgive me, but I've never had to do that with an axis or compression. Smooth as silk.:thumbup:
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I've had to break-in a few Axis-locks. Granted they still function and there isn't any bladeplay as result of them. Just a few "sticky" omega springs.

To the OP, yes by all means contact KAI and get the problem resolved. Their CS is great! Let us know how things go.
 
DeAdEyE956 said:
Reached in my pocket to put my 801 up for the night and felt a small bite. Some how the tip of my pinky made contact with the point of the blade.
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I'm surprised you managed to get nicked that way with an 0801, the tip is pretty well recessed on it when closed (unlike on my beloved Southard, where the tip is pretty easy to reach if you push a finger in against the end of the knife from the top when it's clipped).

As for frame locks, well, some of them will fail and fail hard. It's the nature of the beast that even manufacturers who can properly execute a frame lock will have some lemons that can easily rock closed. That's why I prefer the axis lock and wish it was on everything. Easy to use, comfy, ambidextrous-friendly, etc. That won't stop me from carrying pretty much only frame locks these days, at least not as long as all my favorite flippers are frame locks.
 
It's odd, why your left hand was bitten when it's a right side carry knife. My brother and a coworker had the same thing happened to them when they reached into their left pocket to pull out a right side carry flipper. Coincident or something you shouldn't do with a right side carry flipper.
 
Jasonsdman said:
It's odd, why your left hand was bitten when it's a right side carry knife. My brother and a coworker had the same thing happened to them when they reached into their left pocket to pull out a right side carry flipper. Coincident or something you shouldn't do with a right side carry flipper.
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This. A RH tip up flipper should not go in the left pocket. That puts the flipper against the seam of the pocket and any little bump can make it open. In the R pocket it's a non issue as the blade is against the pocket seam, so even if it does open a little the blade will be away from where your hand would contact it.
 
Bigfatts said:
This. A RH tip up flipper should not go in the left pocket. That puts the flipper against the seam of the pocket and any little bump can make it open. In the R pocket it's a non issue as the blade is against the pocket seam, so even if it does open a little the blade will be away from where your hand would contact it.
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This. The pocket seam should prevent it from opening all together. I've even tested this with side opening autos. I clipped it in the right side pocket and pushed the button, the pocket seam was enough resistance to keep the blade from opening all the way.
 
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