Be Glad You Live here in the USA and Not in the UK

I am sure that some police officers use discretion. Most smart people can fly under the radar for just about any law regarding things on your person, that should not legally be on your person. Especially if you share something in common with the Police, or you aren't the kind of person the police wants to bust. Things are a lot more complicated than, "No person shall conceal a knife of 3" blade length or greater", like, that is not the law for you, effectively, if you come with enough money or people or privacy.

Laws aren't applied equally, is what I'm saying, so I give no sympathy to the UK lawmakers just because "Why, when I was in Shirehampfarmington-at-Grassegrow for a fine pheasant hunt with the terriermen, I could not imagine getting stopped by the local police on our way to... the cigar lounge, or hunting lodge, or whatever." I know I'm hyperbole-ing a bit, but, yeah, I couldn't imagine getting stopped for that either. You and me, we're "wink and nods", we are able to be "gentleman", they know we are there to spend money and are tourists, and nobody is coming for YOUR knife. Find yourself a kid of color with no money, and you'll find different treatment for your utility knife.
 
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Knife Lovrs"

I just viewed a video (lost the link) about knife laws in the UK. Wow. There is a prohibition on any sword made after 1954 for some reason. Antiques are allowed.

While pocket knives are allowed, even a pocket knife that locks; but it seems that any knife that can be opened with one hand ("flick knife", assisted opening or gravity knife).

Here in Texas, about any blade can be openly carried in public.
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Hi all,
The laws here are strick and somewhat stupid paticulary regarding swords - a new law was passed a coupler years back to stop people using japanse "katana" types without considering collectors/reinactors/European martial Artists using Sabres.tulwars etc the get out is to show good reason to have one.
if your visiting the UK dont carry anything other than a non locking penknife under 3 inches. (swiss army knife or small pruning knife)
The contraversy remains over the french Opinal pocket knife as it uses a collar and is technically outside the knife ban.

Here is the UK law:

Basic UK laws on knives​

It’s illegal to possess a banned knife or weapon. It’s also illegal to:

  • bring into the UK, sell, hire, lend or give someone a banned knife or weapon
  • carry any knife in public without good reason, unless it has a manual folding blade less than 3 inches long
  • sell a knife to anyone under the age of 18, unless it has a manual folding blade less than 3 inches long
  • use any knife in a threatening way
In Scotland, 16 to 18 year olds are allowed to buy cutlery and kitchen knives.

Lock knives​

Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason.

Lock knives:

  • have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button (So technically speaking an opinal knife is outside of this and is legal, as you dont press a button to unfold it.)
  • can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener (goodbye leatherman ,gerber etc however again yo udont press abutton to unfold the older leathermans from the80's/ 90's.)

Banned knives and weapons​

It’s illegal to bring into the UK, possess, sell, hire, lend or give someone a banned knife, unless a legal exemption applies.


Knife typeDescription
Butterfly knivesAlso known as ‘balisongs’. A handle that splits in the middle to reveal a blade.
Disguised knivesA blade or sharp point hidden inside something that looks like an everyday object such as a buckle, phone, brush or lipstick.
Flick knives or gravity knivesAlso known as ‘switchblades’ or ‘automatic knives’. Folding knives where the blade opens automatically, by gravity or by pressing a button or something else on the knife.
Stealth knivesNon metal knives or spikes which are not made for use at home, for food or as a toy.
Zombie knivesA knife with a cutting edge, a serrated edge and images or words suggesting it is used for violence.
SwordsA curved blade over 50 centimetres, with some exceptions such as antiques, swords made to traditional methods, or swords made before 1954.
SwordstickA hollow walking stick or cane containing a blade.
Push daggerA knife where the handle fits within a clenched fist and the blade comes out from between two fingers.
BlowpipesSometimes known as ‘blow guns’. A hollow tube out of which hard pellets or darts are shot by the use of breath.
Telescopic truncheonsA knife that extends automatically, or by pressing a button or spring that is in or attached to the handle.
BatonsStraight, side-handled or friction-lock truncheons.
Hollow kubotanA cylinder-shaped container containing a number of sharp spikes
ShurikensAlso known as ‘shaken’, ‘death stars’ or ‘throwing stars’. A hard non-flexible plate with three or more sharp radiating points, designed to be thrown.
Kusari gamaA sickle attached to a rope, cord, chain or wire.
Kyoketsu shogeA hook-knife attached to a rope, cord, chain or wire.
Kusari or ‘manrikigusari’A weight or hand grip attached to a rope, cord, chain or wire.
HandclawsA band of metal or other hard material worn on the hand, from which sharp spikes come out.
FootclawsA bar of metal or other hard material worn on the foot, from which a number of sharp spikes come out.
Knuckle dustersA band of metal or other hard material worn on one or more fingers.
Cyclone or spiral knivesA blade with one or more cutting edges that form a spiral and come to a point.
Belt buckle knifeA buckle which incorporates or conceals a knife.
You should contact your local police to check if a knife or weapon is illegal.

Good reasons for carrying a knife or weapon​

Examples of good reasons to carry a knife or weapon in public can include:

  • taking knives you use at work to and from work
  • taking it to a gallery or museum to be exhibited
  • if it’ll be used for theatre, film, television, historical reenactment or religious purposes, for example the kirpan some Sikhs carry
  • if it’ll be used in a demonstration or to teach someone how to use it
A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife or a weapon if you’re charged with carrying it illegally.
I'm fairly certain in the legal definition of shurikens they actually failed to describe a shuriken. I thought Shuriken meant 'hidden blade' and really was used to discribe any throwing weapons meant to distract the person who had a sharp, pointy chunk of screw you thrown at them.
 
Knife Lovrs"

I just viewed a video (lost the link) about knife laws in the UK. Wow. There is a prohibition on any sword made after 1954 for some reason. Antiques are allowed.

While pocket knives are allowed, even a pocket knife that locks; but it seems that any knife that can be opened with one hand ("flick knife", assisted opening or gravity knife).

Here in Texas, about any blade can be openly carried in public.
"Don't Mess With Texas". :)
Anti litter campaign started by Lady Bird Johnson.
I carried a knife to school from about the 2nd grade on..
Born and raised Texas.
 
Here in Canada, some knives have been made restricted (butterfly knives, switchblades, knives opened with a button, etc…).
But as the legislation reads, there is no law banning the carrying in public, knives with sheaths, knives that take both hands to open and any knife with a fixed blade and certain non-prohibited folding knives.
The concern the RCMP might have is whether you are using the knife as a useful tool, or for the purpose dangerous to public peace, in the way of self-defence or for the purpose of committing a criminal offence.
When I openly carry a sheathed knife every day here in Canada, I am of the mindset that it is to be used only as a useful tool. And I only wear knives 9” or shorter which I feel is less conspicuous and drawing less attention.
 
The USA is unique in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, especially 2nd Amendment rights of citizens to keep and bear arms .

These basic rights have not always been honored in some locales of the USA, but thankfully that seems to be changing somewhat for the better . :cool: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
Lol I wish I lived in the UK... you haven't seen knife laws here in Italy; basically ANY knife, even pinky-length ones, which don't even lock, can get you into trouble if you are walking in the city and if you don't have a "valid reason", meaning you aren't in full trekking/camping attire and are far off any town center. And let's not get into auto knives, balisongs, assisted knives, switchblades and double edged daggers/knives which can't even be owned in your own home, they are in fact considered "proper weapons", which require a lengthy permit which, in case you don't have, you can get fined or even arrested for possessing these knives. In fact these knives are straight up illegal; it's ironic how you are more likely to be able to carry an Italian stiletto in Texas than in Italy. On the other hand knives that open with one hand and have a blade that locks are basically on the borderline to be considered weapons. You can own them but you really need to be careful about carrying them, only being allowed to have them with you when camping, even the most basic liner lock folder, with these knives being forbidden anywhere and at any time unless you again have this "valid reason" which can totally be subjective and depending on whether the officer is having a good or a bad day can pretty much screw you up, not there being an objective and precise law about knives, which at least they have in the UK. I've heard in fact that in the UK you can carry a knife I believe under 3'' with a non locking blade without needing a "valid reason", which is something I'd personally be grateful for if it was allowed here.
Sorry but no one is going to stop, search and arrest a person going about their business with a pocketknife in their pocket either in Italy or the UK. And I know people who went to Italy and brought back stilettos that you can't get in the US.
 
Sorry but no one is going to stop, search and arrest a person going about their business with a pocketknife in their pocket either in Italy or the UK. And I know people who went to Italy and brought back stilettos that you can't get in the US.
That’s just wishful thinking, my friend. “It only happens to others, if it even does”, problem is if it happens to you, you will be a felon, a poorer one at that since you’ll get fined, and might even end up in jail as well. One thing is carrying and using a knife without having to worry about any of that, but that’s not the case if you live here, where knife/edc culture isn’t a big thing.

I’ve personally been stopped and searched by police just for standing at a bus stop with a hoodie on, or even walking around at night, thankfully I didn’t have a knife on me, but I know of people who did and paid the price for it, that’s why it’s best to keep knives in their right context and avoid the illegal ones if you’re here.
 
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