1" group @100 yards from a .22 cal

lmbhami

lmbhami

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Was wondering if anyone out there target shoots with a .22 at 100 yards and has any luck with getting consistant groups around 1 inch.

I used to be a very avid shooter but then the kids came along and I had other priorities.

My son is at an age now where i would like to get him intrested in taret shooting. I started to check the price of ammo out and was suprised to see how much it has risen. I do have a Mossberg 22 target rifle with a Williams peep sitesthat is extremely accurate at 25 yards.

I am intrested in finding out if anyone pushes thier .22 out to 100 yards with consistant results.

I have looked at the ruger 10/22 fully modifed, I can do the mods myself, but was wondering which ones are worthwhile and whch ones people do just for looks.

The only thing that I do know I want to do is
a Bull barrel
a Hougue overmolded stock
trigger work (which I will farm out)

Any recomondations on modifications, manufacturer of the barrel or a different rifle all together.

Thanks
Eddie
 
As a former rimfire metallic silhouette shooter, we had to hit the rams at 100 meters offhand. Of course, we zeroed them from a rest. I have seen some rifles that can do 1" and under at that range. My rifle would do about 1.25" to 1.5" depending on the wind and how much coffee I drank. There is one shooter out there now who is getting .5" at 100 m on occasion with his CZ 452. I forget what ammo he is shooting. Some of the tricked out Ruger Heavy Barrel 10/22 rifles shoot very well, too. My 77/22 All weather at 40m shoots "minute of squirrel" with Remington subsonics.
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Yes 1" groups @100 yards is entirely possible. A good Anshutz, CZ, modded 10/22, or several other higher end 22's would all be capable of this level of accuracy in the right hands.
 
On a calm day, my Ruger will group 1". It's the Ruger 10/22T model, the one that comes with the bull barrel, laminated stock and no sights.

I did a slight trigger job to it, just smoothed some stuff out, added a buffer, replaced the bolt handle and mag release with custom billet parts, added a Volquartsen Stabilization Module, a Harris "S" Series Bipod, and a good scope. That's pretty much it. No serious part replacements. That rifle is a wicked tack driver. Of course I've also run about 6,000 rounds through it so I know that rifle. I use high velocity ammo for target shooting and I try to pick a brand that packs their rounds pretty consistently.

Now some of my buddies have gone absolutely ape dookie with their 22's. They pretty much go ground up on those things. Too much money for me. Putting my 10/22 together probably cost me somewhere around $500 at the time. I've got 4 or 5 .22 rifles, but that one is my favorite and the most accurate.
 
I have a Ruger 10/22 w bull barrel, compensator, Hogue overmolded and a Volq. trigger upgrade ($30ish). My original trigger group was too stiff and would move my rifle when shooting. I was getting <1" at 50yds this week with Aguilla Super Extra. Other ammo shot was Win. Dynapoints and Remington Golden bullets. Both were miserable. I didn't have any CCI. At a 100yds, I was sub 2", But this was after shooting 20rounds of stout 45/70 and 20 30-06AI. So I was a little beat-up. The thing about 100yds is the bullet drop. It dropped more than I expected. I haven't figured out whether to sight in at 100 or leave it at 50.
 
I don't really consider the .22LR a 100-yard round, by any means.

But you can get sub-MOA groups at that distance with many .22 LR rifles (my Anschutz Match 54 and tricked-out 10/22 will do it). Part of the secret is the ammo.

Normal high-velocity .22LR ammo generally starts out supersonic but will fall below supersonic to subsonic before it gets to 100 yards. The transition from super- to subsonic velocity reduces accuracy. Using standard velocity (subsonic) ammo usually helps group sizes at long range.

In my experience, the best bang for the buck in SV ammo is CCI Standard Velocity. I shot a couple of seasons of NRA Indoor 4-position smallbore competition with it without giving up too many points to MUCH more expensive match ammo.

.22s are just plain fun. :)

Good shooting,
desmobob
 
A bunch of .22lr rifles will do 1 moa at 100 yards. The CZ452 would probably be the most accurate under $800.

One thing to consider is that .22lr will be easily affected by wind. Unless it's calm, you can't expect consistent 1 moa with any .22lr.
 
The CZ-452 - even in the lowest priced Trainer/Special variant - is a bargain. You get a match chamber, hammer forged 25.4" barrel, adjustable & protected front sight to match your ammo to the calibrated rear sight (... to 200m!), and an adjustable trigger which can be easily improved. Other than a spacer and spring for the trigger, there isn't a thing to change, unlike the 10/22, where you can keep the receiver and change everything else. Mine has some 3/8" mounts (close enough) and a Swift 676 atop it - that 4-12x40AO scope is super - great match. My son hates them, however - thinks a 5 shot bolt action is boring. I can dispatch shotgun clays - and their shards - at 100yd - fun. He occasionally hits a clay with his tricked out 10/22 (stock receiver only).

I have two of the Super Exclusive/Ultra Lux models - with their longer 28.8" barrel. They retain their iron sights - more optimistically calibrated to 300m. They are super fun to plink at 100yd, but they are capable of much more. I buy American, but I've had my fill of Marlins. The CZ-452s represent three of my four remaining long guns - the fourth being a 24" Puma M1892 SS octagon barrel levergun in .45 Colt - with a Marbles tang sight. I got rid of all of my carbines and rifles - except those. I'll fight to keep the CZs - they are that much fun. My favorite ammo in them is the Federal Game-Shok.

I have to admit, I have a 10/22. My son gave me one for last Christmas. I couldn't get it to sight in, so I put a Williams HiViz front and peep rear sight on - fantastic! They really help 'mature' eyes. Accuracy is highly ammo dependent, it appears. When I want to plink, I grab a CZ!

Stainz

PS Rimfirecentral.com rules!
 
desmobob said:
I don't really consider the .22LR a 100-yard round, by any means.

But you can get sub-MOA groups at that distance with many .22 LR rifles (my Anschutz Match 54 and tricked-out 10/22 will do it). Part of the secret is the ammo.

Normal high-velocity .22LR ammo generally starts out supersonic but will fall below supersonic to subsonic before it gets to 100 yards. The transition from super- to subsonic velocity reduces accuracy. Using standard velocity (subsonic) ammo usually helps group sizes at long range.

In my experience, the best bang for the buck in SV ammo is CCI Standard Velocity. I shot a couple of seasons of NRA Indoor 4-position smallbore competition with it without giving up too many points to MUCH more expensive match ammo.

.22s are just plain fun. :)

Good shooting,
desmobob
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Ive heard that before ,about standard velocity being more accurate. .So I purchased a brick of Winchester T22s and my Marlin semi would not eject them.
 
Use the ammo that your gun [not necessarily you ] prefers ! It can make a big difference and you may get some surprises !
 
I used to build silhouette rifles. We used a lot of 513T Remingtons, Belgian Browning T bolts and Rem 541S sporters. All of those were inexpensive at the time. 1978 or so.
My most accurate was a 541S I built with a 20 inch McGowen bull barrel and a 513 styled stock.
It would put 5 in about 3/4 inch at 100 yds with Eley tenX ammo. One hole all day long at 25 yards.
 
Any CZ should get you sub 1" performance at 100 yards. I have seen many that will group good ammo into 3/4" (and less) at 100 yards.

A 10/22 with some moderate modifications (quality barrel and some trigger work) will get you that kind of performance as well. The CZs pretty much get you there right out of the box, but I think it is more fun to build up a 10/22.

As others have said, ammo selection is probably one of the most important things. I have seen a tube fed, bolt action Marlin consistently print 1" groups at 100 yards with ammo that the particular Marlin really liked.
 
Part of the secret is the ammo.
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I think that 1/2 the secret is the ammo. Getting consistent performance from rimfire depends on quality of ammo.
 
CZ is the shit, a 427 will get you otu to 100 yards sub MOA no questions asked. I use CCI Green Tag alot, it is very consistant, less expensive than lapua or eley.
 
Good glass is important, as is ammo, but I believe if I do my part my cz american with a super light trigger will get pretty close, even with federal bulk, which it loves.
Can't recall what glass is on it but it was only about 200 bucks.
 
..another vote for the CZ with good glass on good mounts and bases

Particularly if it's to train your son how to HIT;train him on a bolt action.

Tricked out 10/22 's are fun, but the trigger on a good 10/22 will still not match the trigger on a good bolt action.
 
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