1084 vs 1080+

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I hunted around for this info but was unable to find anything with my google-fu. Are the chromium and vandium added to the 1080+ enough to make a difference in performance or complicate the heat treat process compared to simple hypo and eutectoid steels? I'm trying to figure out if it would be an acceptable replacement for torch treated 1084. Extra alloying elements sound neat, but any required soak time is an impossibility for me.
 
Do you have a content list for that steel? I got nothing from a search.

If I was guessing, I would say it is like Aldo's 1084FG...just a tad of alloy content to aid in fine grain and deeper hardenability. There isn't enough there to make it significantly harder/stronger/tougher...but it is enough to make HT better.
Aldo's 1084FG
Carbon .85
Mang. .82
Sil. .27
Cr. .15
V. .027
Nickel .08
Boron .003
 
1080+ (From AKS)
Carbon 0.82
Mang. 0.42
Phos. 0.04
Silicon. 0.22
Chrome. 0.60
Vandium 0.20
Sulphur. 0.05
 
Yup, just enough to act as grain refiners and things that will help it make a good blade. I would say they will both make an equally good knife. I doubt anyone could tell one from the other once done.
 
I've used both and if I didn't know which steel I used on which knife, I couldn't tell the difference between either. I seriously doubt anyone else could either.
 
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