I have to ditto the not knowing what you get from admiral, I typically do not have anything bad to say but!!, I got a couple of bars of 1084, came on the invoice/shipping as 1060/1070 ?? When I heat treated it scaled like nothing I have ever seen befor, I HT some test blanks, good thing, because I could not get the temper to work at all, stayed as brittal as glass, finally found a temp that worked and finished a few blades. The decarb was so bad that I threw away all but one blade and all the steel, I just could not waste the time to finish these, I did finish one for myself and it seems to work fine but I could not justify selling this mystery steel.