110 Date code question.

[camvdcs]

I was looking at a list of Date codes for BUCKS and I see a 2005 date code with a sideways T that denotes 'offshore production'. What knives were stamped with this date code? Any 110's?

 

[Buckaholic]

Here ya go..."borrowed" this from my BBF Bear Claw...
(see attached)

 

[Pack Rat]

I was looking at a list of Date codes for BUCKS and I see a 2005 date code with a sideways T that denotes 'offshore production'. What knives were stamped with this date code? Any 110's?

All 110's for 2005 will have the Idaho stamp. The T laying to the left is for the 2005 offshore made knives. 110's are US made. Your 110's will be stamped USA

 

[Buckaholic]

Oh yeah...what The Rat said

 

[camvdcs]

Thanks Buckaholic for the updated date codes. I had an outdated list that had a sideways arrow for 2008. I was scratching my head about that one because the current Bucks out there have the arrow up.

Thanks Rat for the clarification about the off shore knives.

 

[chickentrax]

All 110's for 2005 will have the Idaho stamp. The T laying to the left is for the 2005 offshore made knives. 110's are US made. Your 110's will be stamped USA

That's contrary to my understanding...based on what I've read here, from Joe Houser's posts...

My understanding was that knives made for export were stamped with the T...IOW, made here, but for sale outside the US...So it's quite possible to have a 110 with the T on it...and it may sell on eBay occasionally...

You could very well be right, though...I've been wrong before...:thumbup:

 

[110 Dave]

ok many of you guys may be wandering why the diff year marks..idaho or the T
well Fed law says you can not use a image that may imply made in the usa on any item that comes from out side of the usa..
this is includes even stylized images of the 48 states down to even a single state
it would also include any symbol's such as state seals, flags or any thing else that could be mistaken for sujesting the item was made here..
it is covered under the same law governing the use of USA on items...
jest because you dont have to mark that some items are sorced from out of the usa dont mean you can mark it usa..
this is covered by two diff laws
i wont argue it either.. any one that disagrees can check it out for your self..
note: IMHO- this is why strider and quite a few other makers quit useing ATS34 and went back to 154 or other steels

 

[JD Mandrell]

ok many of you guys may be wandering why the diff year marks..idaho or the T
well Fed law says you can not use a image that may imply made in the usa on any item that comes from out side of the usa..

Then how come they only did it for 2005?

After that, don't foreign and domestic Bucks all have the same year date mark?

 

[A.P.F.]

I have an Idaho stamp Alpha Dorado made with ATS-34 steel.

 

[110 Dave]

for 2005 they only did it on the imported knives..
as to buck's use of ats34 marked steel marked USA or Idaho stamped ....
well they are my fav knife company ..
the only way i can possabillity see it is
if it is a liscenceing deal and the steel is made here..
then it is with-in the law
if the steel is not made here..
then i can not defend it..
Bucks Lawyers know a lot more then i do..
and they do not have cause to explain it to me

 

[JD Mandrell]

I have an Idaho stamp Alpha Dorado made with ATS-34 steel.

I just checked and my 110 with an ATS-34 blade has "U.S.A." on it also.

I wonder if the import laws are for raw steel stock, and once it's made into a blade or other item, then that is considered "made in the USA"?

Not the raw steel, but the finished item.

A Buck knife with Sambar Stag scales, is considered "made in the USA", even though the raw stag material obviously is not indigenous to the USA.