112 square bolster

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ive been looking for some old 112’s to add to my collection. took some family out to a few antique shops this weekend and found these. the seller had 6 square bolster 110’s and these two 112’s. so i grabbed these. they are in pretty good shape but i think im gonna send them to idaho for a day at the spa. i hear it’s beautiful this time of year. also snagged a 2011 era 301 that looked like new. it’s going in the pocket.

the lighter one seems to be a version 2, category 2 1972-1974.

darker one seems to be category 3, version 3 1974-1980.
 

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I feel a bit like an idiot for asking this, but can someone please explain or post a photo showing the square bolsters? Even in the 2022 catalogue, I am just not seeing the difference. Thanks!
 
Question for anyone. I'm sure this has been covered, but I'm not sure how to search for it. On many early 112s (and this goes for my 112 as well), the lock button is raised above the frame in the open and closed position, as seen in this photo especially on the bottom knife. Why is that?

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Question for anyone. I'm sure this has been covered, but I'm not sure how to search for it. On many early 112s (and this goes for my 112 as well), the lock button is raised above the frame in the open and closed position, as seen in this photo especially on the bottom knife. Why is that?

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ive noticed that too. my guess is just to make pressing the lock easier.
 
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ive noticed that too. my guess is just to make pressing the lock easier.
Could be, but not all early 112s are raised. Here is a random photo of a few older knives, which appear to have lower lock buttons.

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Here is a photo of my lock. The blade and lock bar fit is slightly off, but not enough to make a difference on the button height.

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Could be, but not all early 112s are raised. Here is a random photo of a few older knives, which appear to have lower lock buttons.

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Here is a photo of my lock. The blade and lock bar fit is slightly off, but not enough to make a difference on the button height.

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could it be as simple as tolerances in the lock cutout of the blade?
 
could it be as simple as tolerances in the lock cutout of the blade?
You're probably correct, jb. Seems like the raised lock is mostly on the early 112s with only two brass pins in the handle. Perhaps the lock was still being tweaked. Here are a few more from the internet:

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A 112 story and photo from Buck's website for those who did not see it. :)

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BUCK KNIVES HISTORY: HOW A YOUNG CJ BUCK LOST THE ORIGINAL 112 RANGER PROTOTYPE

Remembering back, I was 11 years old standing in the kitchen of our El Cajon, California home as my father began to inflate. You ever recall a time when your dad was really, really angry with you and although he hadn’t really said anything, you can tell he is absorbing the situation and preparing to translate all that burgeoning energy into dramatic action? All I can say is thank goodness my mother was there to intercede on my behalf!

It was summer of 1972 and I had just graduated from the 6th grade. I had taken up skin diving and a group of us was hitching a ride to the beach with one of the moms. There is a jetty that separates West Mission Beach with Ocean Beach and you could play in the waves at Mission and then snorkel in the jetty. I knew “divers” were supposed to have a knife, and I remembered a knife in the kitchen junk drawer and slipped it into my bathing suit pocket. The pocket had a button on the top so I thought the knife would be safe enough. My only memory of that day was realizing at one point that the brass ended folder, an old Buck model #112, was no longer in my pocket. Oh well…easy come easy go.

A couple months later I was watching TV when my father called me into the kitchen from the living room. Mom was at the sink with her back to me as I entered, and to her far left stood Dad with the “junk” drawer open. He asked me if I had seen a folding knife that used to be in that drawer. I said sure, I had taken it on a skin diving trip to the beach and lost it in the water. In the stillness of that moment it felt as though the few feet between my father and me was only inches. It was as if life had just spun the zoom lens on my perception.

He took a deep breath and said, “Chuckie, what you lost was the prototype for the 112 Ranger. What were you thinking?” As a parent myself I understand the temptation to ask that question, but come on…who even said I was thinking? He started ramping up on how valuable and meaningful and…and…and… That is when my mother stepped in and said “Chuck, why was the knife in the kitchen junk drawer?” He just deflated. Kids have no sense of history, and at the time, even now knowing the knife was important, I had no idea how much it might mean to him. Looking back now, he might even have hand built it. I said I was sorry, he accepted that, and it was never spoke of again. Oh how I would love to have that knife in our Buck Knives museum now.

CJ Buck – CEO and Chairman of Buck Knives
 
TAH TAH I've noticed the same on two pin 110s. I think the two pin 110s are just a little slimmer (bolsters smaller and handle thinner). Perhaps this coincides with the change from forged to sintered frames?. I think the relief cut/form on the bolster of the two pins is bigger (exposing more of the release) than the three pin, giving the illusion that the lock release has a different position.

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TAH TAH Perhaps this coincides with the change from forged to sintered frames?. I think the relief cut/form on the bolster of the two pins is bigger (exposing more of the release) than the three pin, giving the illusion that the lock release has a different position.
Thanks Matthew! It does appear the relief cut is larger. That must be it. So, my C2, V3 Ranger has a forged frame? What year did the forged to sintered frame take place?
 
According to Larry Oden's research/book, sintered brass frames were introduced on the 110/112 models in 1975.

quoting Mr. Oden (differentiating forged from sintered frames can be done by looking at the inside of the frame) "If you see striations inside the frame, it is forged. If there is a smooth "milky" look, you have a sintered brass frame"
 
According to Larry Oden's research/book, sintered brass frames were introduced on the 110/112 models in 1975.

quoting Mr. Oden (differentiating forged from sintered frames can be done by looking at the inside of the frame) "If you see striations inside the frame, it is forged. If there is a smooth "milky" look, you have a sintered brass frame"
Thank you! I'll check when I get home.
 
All of this Ranger talk inspired me to re-read Joe's data sheet. Seeing the Category 3, Version 2 with 4 brass pins caught my attention. I assume they are pretty rare and I don't remember ever seeing one, so I did a quick internet search and only found this one...

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How rare are these 4 pinners? Anybody have one?
 
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