119 2x2 3 Liner...

ItsTooEarly

ItsTooEarly

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Hello All, here's my Friday Buck Knife... I got this 119 2x2 3 liner off the bay a few weeks ago... It's a sweet Buck knife... I think all I need now is a 2x2 3 liner 120...

Thanks for looking... ITE

119 2x2...
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That's a beauty Armand. It's ironic, I realised that all my old 119's had the 2 x 2 awhile back and just now found myself a 1 x 2. It's not in as good a shape as your's though, but not bad. I hope that it cleans up to look almost as nice as your.

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ItsTooEarly said:
... It's a sweet Buck knife... I think all I need now is a 2x2 3 liner 120.
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Lucky you, Nice knife! I'm the reverse, I finally found the 120 and am looking hard for the 119 as the only one needed to complete the set. Given the quality of most pictures on the bay, they are hard to pick out with the dark spacers blending in with the phenolic handle.

I know this gets discussed ad nauseum, but I don't see how the 119 and 120 could have followed the conventional pattern of 3 line 2+2 upright being 1973 to 1980. The 3 line inverted and the later 3 spacer are relatively easier to find in the 119 and 120 and they are supposed to be one year transition knives in 72 and 81. Both those patterns had to have been made much longer than 1 year with the 3 line upright 2+2 spacer being a short lived transition between the two.

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2x2 is the number of spacers in the handle. There are 2 spacer under the finger guard and 2 spacers above the pommel. The 119 and 120, three line stamp (read with the blade pointed up) with 4 spacers, are difficult to find. Why this is, I'm not exactly sure. I think its just a numbers thing ( how many were made). Nice find Armand.
 
Desoto
I'm sure its just a typo but you said an inverted stamp, with 3 spacers. There is no such animal.

The inverted 3 line stamp with 4 micarta spacers-- (transition) '72

3 line stamp read blade pointed up,-- '73-'80

3 line stamp , blade up, ( 1 finger guard spacer removed ) early '81

" ( 1 pommel spacer removed ) late '81

" ( 2 total spacers ) '82-'85

" Date stamp '86- on


I'm going to look at the information I have and see if there is an explanation for the 2x2 119 and 120 ( three line stamp, blade up)
 
mbjannusch said:
Desoto
I'm sure its just a typo but you said an inverted stamp, with 3 spacers. There is no such animal.

The inverted 3 line stamp with 4 micarta spacers-- (transition) '72

3 line stamp read blade pointed up,-- '73-'80

3 line stamp , blade up, ( 1 finger guard spacer removed ) early '81

" ( 1 pommel spacer removed ) late '81

" ( 2 total spacers ) '82-'85

" Date stamp '86- on


I'm going to look at the information I have and see if there is an explanation for the 2x2 119 and 120 ( three line stamp, blade up)
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Poor grammar on my part perhaps. I was referring to the 3 line inverted..... and the later 3 spacer knife as two separate entities. (I went back and edited that sentence for clarity, it did sorta read as you say)

I don't accept that the 119 and 120 followed the conventional timeline. The 119 was a high production quantity knife, perhaps even the highest. That doesn't fit with a variation that supposedly was made for 8 years to be rare.
 
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Plumberdv said:
That's a beauty Armand. It's ironic, I realised that all my old 119's had the 2 x 2 awhile back and just now found myself a 1 x 2. It's not in as good a shape as your's though, but not bad. I hope that it cleans up to look almost as nice as your.

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Thanks Dave, I think your 1x2 will clean up nice... It looks good to me the way it is... It took me a long time to find a 2x2 119... I hope I can find a 120 soon... I may even have one in a box some where... Your sheath looks real nice, mine sucks... :eek: ... ITE
 
I'd like to get some clarification on the 3 vs. 4 spacer issue as I've just started paying attention to them. I've found two different statements that seem on the surface to contradict each other. Did I miss read or just not understand? :confused: The first is from a prior thread on the subject.

1. "The way I understand this is that in early '81 Buck removed one of the finger guard spacers. In late '81 they removed the lower pommel spacer, leaving only two, one on the finger guard and one one the pommel. The removal of the spacers was because they weren't needed any longer. Spacers were used to true up the knife and with fine blanking and all of the mechanical process that the knife goes threw the hunan error is taken out of the equation. Spacers were now used just for looks and the reduction was a cost savings. So, the three spacer knives are fewer than any other, because they were made for such a short time."

2. "2x2 is the number of spacers in the handle. There are 2 spacer under the finger guard and 2 spacers above the pommel. The 119 and 120, three line stamp (read with the blade pointed up) with 4 spacers, are difficult to find. Why this is, I'm not exactly sure. I think its just a numbers thing ( how many were made). Nice find Armand."
 
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Plum
I re-read both statements and I realized what you were talking about. Neither statenemt had anything to do with the other. The 2x2, 119s and 120s are difficult to find and the reason for this is unknown. The three spacer (1x2) 119s and 120s are again a bit harder to find, only because they made them in a transition period for a year. Niether are impossible to find, only difficult. On auction sites pictures are lacking, to be kind. I hope this helps, if not please explain what it is your question is, so I can answer. I did write both statements...
 
DeSotoSky said:
Lucky you, Nice knife! I'm the reverse, I finally found the 120 and am looking hard for the 119 as the only one needed to complete the set. Given the quality of most pictures on the bay, they are hard to pick out with the dark spacers blending in with the phenolic handle.

I know this gets discussed ad nauseum, but I don't see how the 119 and 120 could have followed the conventional pattern of 3 line 2+2 upright being 1973 to 1980. The 3 line inverted and the later 3 spacer are relatively easier to find in the 119 and 120 and they are supposed to be one year transition knives in 72 and 81. Both those patterns had to have been made much longer than 1 year with the 3 line upright 2+2 spacer being a short lived transition between the two.

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Thanks DeSky, good find on your 120... I hope I find one soon... ITE ... :)
 
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