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12 attacks
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There's a lot of info at...
http://www.geocities.com/kalipages/
I'm sure if you do a search on this forum on "12 strikes" or "angles" you'll come up with a lot more; I haven't been to the above mentioned geocities site for quite a while- good luck.
(And remember that some Arnis styles have different ways of using the angles- some have less, some more). Going through them by describing the strikes and movements would be very hard for me!
http://www.geocities.com/kalipages/
I'm sure if you do a search on this forum on "12 strikes" or "angles" you'll come up with a lot more; I haven't been to the above mentioned geocities site for quite a while- good luck.
(And remember that some Arnis styles have different ways of using the angles- some have less, some more). Going through them by describing the strikes and movements would be very hard for me!
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Different styles use slightly different methods of numbering the initial 12 strikes. What one person calls a number six might be a number eight in another system, etc.
I think that the easiest way to remember the striking angles is to draw the star or estala (sp) pattern in the air. It's basically just an asterik - make a plus sign and then make an X over that. You can perform any slash or thrust along these lines. You can also thrust any point on this pattern, including the center.
There are some other slashing lines not included in the estala, e.g. a high horizontal slash to the neck. But I have found from my study of kali that more or less most every strike comes from this star pattern.
I think that the easiest way to remember the striking angles is to draw the star or estala (sp) pattern in the air. It's basically just an asterik - make a plus sign and then make an X over that. You can perform any slash or thrust along these lines. You can also thrust any point on this pattern, including the center.
There are some other slashing lines not included in the estala, e.g. a high horizontal slash to the neck. But I have found from my study of kali that more or less most every strike comes from this star pattern.
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The kali style I study doesn't use the "estala" pattern as far as I am aware (I'm still pretty new).
How do styles that do use the 12 angles system teach arcing thrusts, "C" cuts, or cuts on "tangents" (that don't lead to the center of the body?
Are they taught separately? Or are they incorporated into the "estala" somehow?
How do styles that do use the 12 angles system teach arcing thrusts, "C" cuts, or cuts on "tangents" (that don't lead to the center of the body?
Are they taught separately? Or are they incorporated into the "estala" somehow?
I would reiterate that almost every "main" style uses a slightly different numbering system. The numbers being a simple reference to the body part or angle.
One of the three core styles I practice and teach is Serrada and it does indeed use a twelve angle striking system. Interesting to note is that in almost every style of FMA, an angle one is a head shot and is from heaven to earth in direction. Serrada starts this way as well (at a 45 degree angle). Angle two is to the opposite side of the head etc... Most of these angles or attacks for Serrada were based on natural skeletal structure, it's weakness in areas AND the few gaps and openings in the Spanish Armor. I.E. - Inayan Serrada angle 5 is a thrust (stab) to the stomach or just below the armored breast plate.
It's interesting to note how some styles come about having different angles of attack. Some are completely different simply due to the size or weight of the weapon and how you can or cannot maneuver the weapon. Some are different because someone broke away from someone else's training and they needed to show some difference.
At this point, there are no graphics showing any of the striking combos in Inayan Eskrima on the ISI web site but there will be someday soon no doubt.
One of the three core styles I practice and teach is Serrada and it does indeed use a twelve angle striking system. Interesting to note is that in almost every style of FMA, an angle one is a head shot and is from heaven to earth in direction. Serrada starts this way as well (at a 45 degree angle). Angle two is to the opposite side of the head etc... Most of these angles or attacks for Serrada were based on natural skeletal structure, it's weakness in areas AND the few gaps and openings in the Spanish Armor. I.E. - Inayan Serrada angle 5 is a thrust (stab) to the stomach or just below the armored breast plate.
It's interesting to note how some styles come about having different angles of attack. Some are completely different simply due to the size or weight of the weapon and how you can or cannot maneuver the weapon. Some are different because someone broke away from someone else's training and they needed to show some difference.
At this point, there are no graphics showing any of the striking combos in Inayan Eskrima on the ISI web site but there will be someday soon no doubt.
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some use 2 angles or 3 or 5 or 8 or 9 or 12 or 64 or 128 or ...
some systems have one numbering system and will have it changed to another
work the basic star pattern - that covers most of the angles.
shin has a good q. sadly, i'm still in the basic star pattern. i work the redondo a bit though.
some systems have one numbering system and will have it changed to another
work the basic star pattern - that covers most of the angles.
shin has a good q. sadly, i'm still in the basic star pattern. i work the redondo a bit though.