12c27 for the BM 42... why?

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Lothar,I've seen several people make pliers like those.It works,but not well from what I've seen.It's better to just turn the wire on a metal dowel rod then cut the links off.You'll still need to close the ring completely using regular pliers (or needlenose for jewelry & other small links),since the rings will "spring back".I've run across many who try to "cheat" as it were,but most of what they turn out isn't good.There's still nibs on the ends of the rings (unless they were pre-cut with a real machine instead of hand cut),or the rings aren't properly closed which allows ring slippage.

Nate,nah!! I'll stick to my old faithful piers of pliers
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I still need to find 2 more exactly like mine.The ones that I use are standard pliers,but the lip is smaller than others that I find now.These allow me to work with ring diameters down to 1/4 inch.I can still get into tight spots with them,whereas I can't with other pliers that have a slightly wider lip.The ones I use have teeth as well,which is good for gripping the ring.For jewelry work,I use jeweler's needlenose,which are smaller & thinner than normal,and have no teeth at all (finer metals will easily shred with toothed pliers).

I am planning on trying to write a book on how to make chainmail *properly*,since the one that I have seen and the websites that show how all do things in really odd ways that take longer to do,and will also make the hands & wrists suffer from C.T.S. a lot quicker.They also don't show all the different "weaves" of chainmail...usually they only show a few of the oriental,persian and european.I only know of one site that shows a piece of the "scaled" chainmail,and that is from my most recent apprentice.


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My "inner puppy" made me do it..

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Mac most people I know dont see the point in chainmail. they like the full stainless reproduction Gothic armor because its "sexier" and flashier. Personally form fitted hardened leather is a wonderful item and so is Kings Mail (which is something Ive always wanted to try making. IM or email me sometime. Id love to discuss armoring with you sometime.

Nate
 
What about using 90-degree needlenose? are those easier than straight?

Re: the appeal of chainmail, I met a guy once who had his biker jacket lined with it, between the leather and the quilted lining... saved his ass in a knife fight once. Heavy jacket, to be sure, but it made an impression on me.
 
Well,if you two want,you can e-mail me at MacCanine@yahoo.com to discuss chainmail
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I still find many people who are interested in the stuff,usually at renaissance festivals and the occasional person who sees me working on stuff outside of the festivals.
I'm always willing to talk about this craft with those who are interested
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Lothar,regarding 90 degree needlenose,those things suck.You have a harder time getting rings closed properly with those,since you're working from a bad angle.I had an apprentice who tried those,and they ended up throwing the pliers out the window.


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It wasn't me...It was my *good* twin..
My "inner puppy" made me do it..

[This message has been edited by MacCanine (edited 05-13-2001).]
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lothar.OTHP:
I met a guy once who had his biker jacket lined with it, between the leather and the quilted lining... saved his ass in a knife fight once.</font>
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Chainmail is why stilettos proper, were devised. Ice pick-like weapons will go through assuming the links are not very small, etc.

But, in Harley Davidson Shops, Biker Jackets used to be sold with chainmail on the outside, on the shoulders coming down to breast and on the elbows.

Helped with nasty spills. Roadrash is a bad thing.

Anyway, I knew a Dude that wore one all the time when he was going to any place where there was a threat, he didn't give a damn if it was 90 degrees out.

He had a chromed HD belt too, made out of motorcycle chain and I have personally witnessed what one of those can do on two separate occasions. Those at one time were sold as well. Since I don't live around Bikers anymore, I don't know about it.

I would think that if you made a piece or armor to go into any good jacket that had a 1/4 inch thick piece of saddle leather and chainmail sewed onto that professionally, that would be hard to beat for "Heart Armor."

Just have a Tailor sew you a pocket of some sort and slide one in each side.

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And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
Some of my Knives and other neat things

[This message has been edited by Don Rearic (edited 05-13-2001).]
 
Jonas,

There is a reason for that. I have lessons to learn and I have to learn not to sell things because I take for granted they can be replaced.

Now I have learned my lesson because it is quite apparent that Les deAsis is not going to have Customs produced anymore, etc., and who knows what the future holds for the Company that made the BaliSong what it is.

But I have a surprise coming in about 9 days. If it works out, you will see it here first.

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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
Some of my Knives and other neat things
 
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