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14" Trisul..or The Nepali Boot Knife

Discussion in 'Himalayan Imports' started by Steely_Gunz, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. Steely_Gunz

    Steely_Gunz Got the Khukuri fevah Moderator

    May 9, 2002
    Well after a few months of shipment delays and national political turmoil in Nepal, my 14" Trisul finally arrived some time over the last couple of days while I took a needed break from the daily grind. I have to say, it was worth the wait:D I had a trisul for about a week a few years ago. Sadly, it was hardened too much at the edge and developed "phantom chipping". Basically, I would sheath the knife, pull it out the next day, and the edge was full of chips. Of course, Yangdu being Yangdu was more than happy to replace it. At the time, she was out of stock of the Trisul so I settled on a Juri...which my step brother latched onto, and I have never seen it again:p So, long story short...I've been wanting a 14" Trisul for quite some time now.

    This is going to be more of an initial impressions review until I can get a few pictures taken. That might not be for a few days as the wife says that the pics of the trip MUST be downloaded before I start messing with the camera and possibly delete any precious irreplaceable photos....of exotic Newport Kentucky:confused:. At any rate, if my wife the procrastinator ever gets them on the computer, I will have free reign to actually take a pic or two of this beauty:D

    The Trisul was made just for me (even had a sticker with my name on it wrapped around the handle:D) is 14" (and a smidge) long an right around 14oz. It was made by the new Kami Shaila who once upon a time was a helper to Bura...Yes, THE Bura:D He now has the go ahead to make his own knife. I have to say, Bura taught him pretty well:thumbup: The grip is black buffalo horn and the blade and guard are mirror polished and sharp. There was a slight burr along the edge, and my "good" sharpening tools were at work. However, with just a butcher's steel and a loaded strop I was able to get the burr removed and revealed a nice convex edge that would shave hair from my arm without any trouble.

    For those of you that handled the Trisul a couple of years back, this is a little bit different animal. It still has its shallow belly, its wicked point, and an integrated guard as well as a slab style handle. However, there are two noticeable differences to this new version compared to the older one that I handled.

    First of all, the guard seems to be hammered out from the thickness of spine (at a guess I'm going to say about 5/16") so that the guard/blade/handle junction is maybe 3/16"-1/4" thick. While this does make the knife less likely to survive being put in a vice and cranked over with a steel bar, it is basically a non-issue. What it does do is to give a fairly basic sticker design some of the best in hand balance I have ever experienced. The thinning at the guard swelling up to the thickest part of the blade about 3" up and then the tapering down to the point and counter balanced by the grip gives the knife a very good heft. It doesn't keep all of its "junk in its trunk" but isn't tip heavy by any means.

    This is just not a knife designed for utility. For lack of a better term, I'm going to call it a "fighting knife" or a "combat knife" or, probably a more fitting term, an "assassin's knife". This knife is sharp. You can cut all manner of things that you might cut with any edged object. But once you grip this bad boy, you know that its special purpose in life is for offense/defense. Kept in a deep boot or on a belt this would be quite a formidable tool were you backed into a corner.

    The other difference about this knife compared to the older model is that the grip now comes much more blocky and angular. If I had to make one criticism of the knife, it would be the grip right out of box. It basically feels like gripping a block of wood. However, never fear my tender-fingered friends:D A quick trip to the grinder hogged off the horn edges and a little buffing with steel wool smooth it out nicely. Now, I'll have to go back and polish the horn back to a sheen...if I feel like it, but the knife is nice and comfy now. Maybe 2 minutes of work on a cheap Chinese grinder from Harbor Freight:thumbup: One positive of the new grip is that the knife (once de-toothed) now lends itself to being gripped in both a standard grip as well as a downward stabbing grip. My old one only felt "right" when the it was held downward.

    One of the things that I love about this rig is the sheath. Normally, I like to fashion my own sheathes to sort of personalize the knife. However, this one was done just right. The trisul sheath throat is wide enough for the guard to fit down inside. I guess they did that so that the knife would be less likely get snagged and slip out as you were ninja crawling through the bushes to take out a corrupt Shogun. My particular specimen has an audible and quite strong >click< when you insert it. Almost like Kydex! Very cool. I might end up making another sheath anyway, but this one was very, very well done.

    All and all, I have to say that I am most pleased to finally have a 14" Trisul again. I know they have been offered in 18" versions from time to time, but IMHO, this is one knife that really shines in the under 15" and over 12" range. Our new kami friend Shaila is shaping up to be a fine worker. A big thank you is in order for him. Of course I also must thank Yangdu for her fantastic kindness and service as always. I guess I should also be polite and thank US customs for allowing the last shipment into the country.:D
     
  2. Ad Astra

    Ad Astra

    Jul 30, 2004
    JAAAAAAKE. This Thread Needs Pictures.

    So I'm putting my Neem Trisul pic in, until you remedy your lack thereof. :D Consider it a loan; delete when you get yours. :p

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    Pictured: oh-so-cool Trisul (as described by Jake) with a 18" Sher Attitude and 14" Neem Bura BDC.


    Mike
     
  3. alamborn

    alamborn

    56
    Mar 19, 2008
    I think I've been around this forum too long. I have a sudden need to get taller boots, something in the 14" range in fact!

    Thanks for the write up Steely, can't wait for the pictures.
     
  4. MassMatt

    MassMatt

    709
    Apr 2, 2006
    I was just gonna say, they must wear BIG BOOTS in Nepal! Sounds very cool, is this one single edge like the pic? The overall profile looks quite dagger-like but the other pic is single edge.
     
  5. Steely_Gunz

    Steely_Gunz Got the Khukuri fevah Moderator

    May 9, 2002
    Thanks for the pics, Mike:D I'm going to try to keep yours up and post a similar shot of the new trisul for comparison. If you look at the guard, mine is probably 50% flatter/thinner than this one. The rest of the thickness is about the same. Also, it appears that they have thinned the cross section of the handle but left the width the same. That's probably why it felt so blocky. Pretty comfy now with minimal grinding.

    Well, maybe not a BOOT knife:p, although I wear engineer boots pretty much every day and I guess maybe the length of the blade would fit OK in there. Drawing it would be a challenge, though:D

    To my knowledge, all of the trisuls have come single edged. If you look at it from the flat side, you would almost expect a long clip like a Cherokee Rose. However, as Mike's pic shows, they remain pretty dang stout across the whole spine. It's a stabber...but it'll leave a nice triangular punch hole. The only "delicate" part on this style of knife is the tip. However, if you buggered the first 1/8" and reground it, I doubt you'd ever have a failure of any kind.

    I did do a little light prying with this one to see how the flat tang/handle junction flexed. I didn't try to break it by any means, but I wanted to see just how much it flexes. Putting maybe 60% of my weight on the handle caused the knife to flex maybe 7 degrees. The guard area of mine is around right at 1/8" thick:eek: then it goes up to a full 1/4" thick about 3" up from that, and then goes back to 1/8" right before the termination to the point. I would say that with mechanical leverage and determination you could probably damage the knife in this area.

    However, I just don't see this being an issue with something designed for poking holes in people. It's a little like expecting the S/F British Commando Dagger to baton through a log and then whittle it into a wooden horse. The Trisul is probably tougher than just about any other dagger out there, honestly.:D

    If it's slow at work, I'm going to put the Trisul through a couple tests, and I'll get a couple of pics as well;)
     
  6. Horn Dog

    Horn Dog

    Sep 9, 2005
    Thanks for the review, Steely Gunz. Those are wicked looking daggers, for sure. Some pics would help. The reason my reviews have so many pics is I type so slowly. I figure each pic is worth 1000 words, so it increases my typing speed. ;)
     
  7. Steely_Gunz

    Steely_Gunz Got the Khukuri fevah Moderator

    May 9, 2002
    OK, I was finally able to get the camera from the wife. I didn't take many pics since the cam is pretty horrible at taking close up shots.
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    I did take a couple of pics of the guard area of the tang.
    Just for fun, I also have a couple of shots of the damage I was able to inflict on a poor extra phone book I had sitting around the office.:D

    In this first pic you can see how thinned out the blade is at the guard area as compared to Mike's older version. It really doesn't hinder the knife functioning at all and gives it a nice balance. I was a bit skeptical at first, but after leaning on this junction pretty hard and whacking the daylights out of it, I guess it'll hold up just fine;)
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    This next pic is a penetration proof. I didn't go full out, but I did jab this poor phone book pretty doggone hard. It made it through the white pages, the red business pages, the coupon pages, and all the way into the the "Physicians" section under "P". That's a full 2/3 way through the book:eek: No tip damage what so ever.
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    Now, the Trisul is a sticker and a slasher to be sure. However, given a little bit of a snap when swung, it can chop soft targets quite well. This is a pic of a pretty hard, but not full force swing into the book. The deepest part of the cut cleared the white pages as well as the red business pages. Probably about 1/3 of the way through.
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    After a little time with this knife, I can honestly say that I would NOT want to be on the receiving end of it. So far, it has passed pretty much every test that I would expect this style of blade to hold up to. The edge and tip are holding up fine. I would have liked to have seen maybe just a little bit more fit and finish, but for a first try after several years this is just fine:D

    ...Now, I just need an antler or neem handled version.:D
     
  8. TWBryan

    TWBryan

    Jun 11, 2006
    Good review,I still say it reminds me of the German trench knife.
     
  9. Yangdu

    Yangdu [email protected] Himalayan Imports-Owner Moderator

    Apr 5, 2005
    Nice review and picture, thank you Jake
     
  10. Cpl Punishment

    Cpl Punishment

    Jan 28, 2006
    I do believe, having looked at the ones offered, that the Trisul could give the Bowie design a run for it's money as a fighting knife.
     
  11. M. Taylor

    M. Taylor

    851
    Dec 4, 2005
    I'd really like to get one of these someday. Nice review.
     
  12. Ad Astra

    Ad Astra

    Jul 30, 2004
    Like most, no-, all HIs, there's some design variance.... ;) do you think yours is through-hardened, Jake? I need to etch mine and see.

    Mike
     
  13. Steely_Gunz

    Steely_Gunz Got the Khukuri fevah Moderator

    May 9, 2002
    I don't think so, Mike. I put a pretty good flex on the tang area. I plan on giving it an etch as well. I usually use muriatic acid to do my etching....but all of mine was torched in the fire:foot:

    I'm curious, though. The last one that I had was hardened at the tip and had a sweet spot similar to that of a khuk. However, this new one is such a deviation from the original, that I want to make sure.:):thumbup:
     
  14. Yvsa

    Yvsa

    May 18, 1999
    It's probably because of my personal distaste for those types of integral guards on the Trisul that I've never noticed the Trisul's blade similarity to those on at least one of the Bill Bagwell's Ontario Bowies before, but Jake's pic really brought it out too me and when I went back and looked at Mike's pic I could see the similarity there as well.:thumbup: :cool: :D

    If the Trisul balances anything at all like the Bill Bagwell's Ontario Bowie I got too handle at a G & K Show quite some time ago then I have to agree that it would make one helluva an awesome fighter!:thumbup: :D :cool:
     

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