15 Survival myths that can actually kill you

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1. MYTH: YOU NEED TO FIND FOOD RIGHT AWAY

“One of the biggest survival myths is that you need to invest energy and take risks in order to immediately find food,” said Ras Jason Vaughan, a veteran thru-hiker, ultra-runner and adventurer who is better known as UltraPedestrian Ras. “Shows on television depict survivalists eating raw worms and chewing live snakes to bits within a few hours of being dropped off by a helicopter.” That’s just not how real life survival works.

REALITY: SOMETHING ELSE WILL GET YOU FIRST

“In reality, you can survive for weeks on just your body's fat stores, as long as you have water to drink. Conserving energy, avoiding injury, and sourcing a supply of water are key to surviving,” said Ras. “Hunting and trapping prey are hit and miss activities which often produce nothing and simply end up expending energy and risking injury or illness. It's extremely rare for someone to die of starvation in a survival situation. Injury, illness, poisoning and exposure are much [more] likely to result in death. By definition, ‘surviving’ a situation is short-term, and in the short term a person can be fueled by their fat reserves.”



2. MYTH: WITH JUST TWO STICKS ANYONE CAN START A FIRE
“None of us would be here today if our ancestors hadn’t mastered the fine art of friction firemaking, but this is a skill to practice on camping trips and backyard outings,” said Tony Nester of Ancient Pathways Survival School. It’s a big mistake to rely solely on friction firemaking in a survival situation, especially when you could end up in a damp environment.

REALITY: PREPARATION IS KEY TO STARTING A FIRE IN THE WILD

“Modern survival is about being prepared and carrying at least three firestarters (Stormproof matches, spark-rod, and lighter) with you at all times when in the backcountry,” said Nester. “I teach primitive firemaking skills to show my students how to perform the method but find that, even under the best of conditions, it is a challenge and not reliable for most people. This is not the method I want to use if I am lost, injured or stranded in the wilds with the sun going down.”


3.MYTH: MYTH: REALITY SHOWS ABOUT SURVIVAL WILL HELP YOU PREPARE FOR A DIRE SITUATION
We’ve all seen shows like Survivor and Man vs. Wild and while they can be entertaining, you shouldn’t take their survival advice seriously.

REALITY: THESE SHOWS AREN’T ALWAYS ACCURATE

“I've worked as a consultant on several reality shows and these shows are heavily-scripted,” said Nester. “On one program, there was a crew of 12 people accompanying us, including two staff whose sole job was to drag around coolers filled with double-shot espressos and sandwiches while filming scenes of the host living off the land. There's nothing romantic or fun about real survival—it's only adventure in retrospect.”


4. YOU SHOULD SUCK THE VENOM FROM A SNAKE BITE WOUND
“Clinical field-trials done by researchers at the University of Arizona have proven that you do more damage to the immediate tissue of a snakebite victim by applying a suction device than if you had left the extremity alone,” said Nester. “Don’t apply ice, a tourniquet, a compression wrap, or attempt the Hollywood cut-and-suck method.”

REALITY: GET TO A HOSPITAL QUICKLY

“Your best remedy for snakebite is your car keys. Don’t waste time—time equals tissue,” said Nester. “Use good wound care by washing off the bite site, covering with a bandage, and getting the victim to the hospital. Statistically, out of the 6,500 rattlesnake bites in North America each year, there are only 5 or 6 fatalities. Also, 30% of rattlesnake bites are dry so you may not have [been poisoned].”“Remember the golden rule of desert travel: don’t put your hands or feet where you can’t see and you will avoid most rattlesnake encounters. And a side note—a dead rattlesnake can still bite you long after it’s been squished on the highway. The bite reflex within the nervous system is still intact for several hours after the snake’s demise so don’t pick one up lusting after a cool snakeskin belt.”


5.MYTH: YOU CAN OUTRUN A BEAR
It’s that persistent fear in bear country. “You’re coming through a willow thicket,” said Nester, “and you can’t see what’s on the other side, and [the bear] can’t smell or see you, and you clear the brush and—boom—there’s one six feet away from you.” If the bear doesn’t run away first, your own flight instinct is likely to kick in. But be warned...—Mark Lebetkin

REALITY: NO YOU CAN’T; KNOW HOW TO REACT INSTEAD

Running away from a bear is a lost cause: Usain Bolt himself couldn’t beat one in a footrace, let alone on uneven terrain. The best thing to do depends on the species. If you encounter a black bear, said Nester, “Hold your ground and make yourself look big—open your coat up, throw your arms up above your head—and shout and scream and, a lot of times, they’re as spooked as you are, and will take off.” Take the opposite approach with a grizzly: “Avoid eye contact, which a bear will perceive to be a challenge. If the bear's not approaching, back away slowly. If it charges, simply stand your ground. If you have pepper spray, be ready to use it… and pronto. If it makes physical contact with you, cover your vitals and play dead.” (Click here for more details.)—Mark Lebetkin


6. MYTH: THE BEST WAY TO STOP A SHARK ATTACK IS BY PUNCHING IT IN THE NOSE
These fascinating giants of the sea are so interesting that they’ve earned a whole week of programing on the discovery channel and, unfortunately, more than their fair share of myths. Though being the victim of a shark attack is extremely unlikely, most people think “when attacked by a shark, [you should] punch it in the nose to stun it,” said Elena Manighetti a long-time outdoor enthusiast and blogger.

REALITY: YOU HAVE A BETTER SHOT AT ESCAPE BY GOING FOR THE EYES

“Even though it's true that sharks get stunned if they get punched in the nose, not many people have enough strength to do this, especially underwater,” said Manighetti. Even if you could manage the strength to hit the nose hard enough, there’s a chance your hand could end up injured by shark teeth. “The best way to scare a shark away is to scratch its eyes or gills, it's impossible to overpower these fierce creatures in attack mode.”


7. MYTH: YOU NEED TO FIND WATER IMMEDIATELY TO SURVIVE IN DESERT HEAT
“There have been many cases of desert survivors enduring without water for up to 48 hours because they holed up in the shade and were smart with their own sweat expenditure,” said Nester. “Conversely, there have been other hikers who have perished within four hours because they taxed their bodies to the limits trying to locate water during the heat of the afternoon.”


REALITY: KEEPING COOL WILL KEEP YOU ALIVE

“You will last longer in the heat by holing up in the shade versus searching for nebulous water during the afternoon hours,” said Nester. “If you do run out of water, find a north-facing boulder and sit in the shade; keep covered like a cowboy to prevent evaporative sweat loss; stay off the hot ground by sitting on your pack or a pile of debris; and only move around during the cooler hours of the morning or evening.” If you didn’t tell anyone about your travel plans, though, rescue will likely take more than a few hours and you should search for water when the temperature drops.Related: How to Survive—Finding Water in the Desert


8. MYTH: DRINKING YOUR OWN URINE WILL SAVE YOU IN THE DESERT
Gandhi did it. Bear Grylls does it. It sounds logical enough: When there is no water to be found, you can drink your own pee. Your body will just re-filter the bad stuff and extract the usable water, or so the logic goes. After all, when would resorting to this otherwise verboten act be more necessary than in the desert when you’re dying of thirst?—Mark Lebetkin

REALITY: IT CAN PUSH YOUR BODY OVER THE EDGE

You shouldn’t try to quench your thirst with urine for the same reason you’re dehydrated: heat. Nester explains: “The problem with drinking urine—we hear about it with border crossers—there becomes a tipping point with your body’s ability to thermoregulate. You’re on the cusp of heat exhaustion or heat stroke and you just added one more thing to a body already taxed by the heat. Your kidneys now have to process something, and it taxes your body’s cooling mechanism.” If you really want to make your urine useful, though, Nester has some advice: “You can pee on a bandana and wear it for evaporative cooling.”—Mark Lebetkin



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9. MYTH: YOU CAN DRINK WATER FROM A CACTUS
“In movies, you see a cowboy lop off the top of a barrel cactus—a big, beach ball-shaped cactus—dip his ladle in and get a drink of water,” says Nester. “That’s not water, though. It’s a noxious fluid that’s very high in alkalis.”—Mark Lebetkin

REALITY: YOU’LL MAKE YOURSELF SICK

“You don't get 'water' from cactus; you get a stomachache and vomiting,” says Nester. “When you’re heat-stressed, when you have heat exhaustion and you add some of that stuff to your body, you’re going to further tax your kidneys and plunge yourself deeper into trouble, possibly even into heat stroke. Basically, you’re ingesting a substance that your body has to process, which is not recommended. You can drink from a barrel cactus, but only one of five varieties—the fishhook barrel—isn’t toxic."—Mark Lebetkin


10. MYTH: YOU DON’T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT SURVIVAL UNLESS YOU’RE GOING ON A MAJOR ADVENTURE
Heading out for a day hike or a simple overnight may seem straightforward enough, so you don’t actually need to take survival precautions, right?

REALITY: EVEN SHORT HIKES CAN BECOME DIRE SURVIVAL SITUATIONS

“The weather may deteriorate, you may get lost or become injured,” said Brice King an avid backpacker and Vice President at Roam Right. “You always want to have a few key items with you when you venture into the outdoors—snacks and water, extra layer of clothes, a map and compass, a flashlight and a medical kit. You also want to let someone know where you are going and when you plan to return.”


11. MYTH: IF YOU GET INTO TROUBLE, YOU CAN ALWAYS BE AIRLIFTED TO A HOSPITAL
“One of the biggest myths is that hikers think that helicopters can rescue them anywhere,” said Jacquie Whitt, a 20-year adventure travel veteran and Co-founder of Adios Adventure Travel.

REALITY: A HELICOPTER RESCUE IS NOT ALWAYS AN OPTION

While people may think an air rescue will be available in an emergency, that’s not always true. “That’s not the case in [parts of] South America—in some places it is—but hikers have to understand that once they are on the trail [that’s it]. If an emergency arises, it must be handled by guides, porters (who don’t speak English) and hikers,” said Whitt. Contrary to scenes in action movies there are places helicopters can’t reach you, severe weather can make air rescue impossible and there’s still the matter of getting in touch with someone who could send the helicopter.


12. MYTH: BOILED WATER IS ALWAYS 100% SAFE TO DRINK
“It's a myth to assume that boiling water is water purification cure all,” said Justin Jackson, who goes by “Just In Case” Jack in the survival community. He is an expert survivalist with an engineering and military background and warns against relying solely on boiling water.

REALITY: YOU STILL NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF WHERE YOUR WATER COMES FROM

“While boiling water will kill off organisms and germs, it will not clean harmful particulates from the water. For instance, no matter how long you boil chemically contaminated water it won't be safe to drink,” said Jack. “This same principle applies to stagnant dirty water. When the water you are boiling has not been filtered, then you will end up drinking the dirt particles. If the water you are attempting to purify is visibly dirty or murky, you should filter the water before attempting to boil it. If you don't have a commercial water filter available, then you can either pour the dirty water through a clean fabric (towel or shirt) or leave the water to stand until the sediments sink to the bottom. Then just pour the clean water from the top...and then boil.”


13. MYTH: YOU CAN EAT LOTS OF SNOW TO REHYDRATE
Some people think because snow is just frozen water, they can rely on it to keep them hydrated, even in dire situations with freezing temperatures.

REALITY: EATING A BUNCH OF SNOW WHEN YOU’RE ALREADY FREEZING CAN BE DEADLY

“While snow is technically water, it's also very cold. If you are in a survival situation and in need of water, it's best to melt it and warm before ingesting it,” said Jack. “Eating lots of snow will decrease your internal body temperature, which can exacerbate hypothermia. It also forces your body to warm the cold snow upon ingestion which will use up a lot of valuable body energy reserves. While casually eating snow typically causes no harm, doing so in a dire survival situation where you are already stuck in frigid outdoor conditions can be deadly.”


14. MYTH: SHELTER MEANS HAVING A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD
If food isn’t your top priority, then maybe you should be gathering wood to build that lean-to shelter you’ve seen people build on TV, right? Wrong. “The average person’s idea of shelter is about having a roof over your head,” said Tim Smith of Jack Mountain Bushcraft School. “That’s completely erroneous.”—Mark Lebetkin

REALITY: IT’S THE GROUND, STUPID

“It’s better to have a bed and no roof than a roof and no bed,” Smith says. “An inexperienced person spends 10 hours building a roof and freezing to death on the cold ground. A smart person spends their time building a bed to insulate them from the cold ground, and getting to the roof if they have time.”—Mark Lebetkin


15. MYTH: YOU’RE SUDDENLY GOING TO FIND YOURSELF IN A CLASSIC SURVIVAL SCENARIO
This myth is the survival fantasy itself: You might suddenly find yourself in a situation—getting lost in the woods, running out of gas on a remote desert road, getting cut off from the world by a sudden event—where you’ll have to jump into survival mode and depend on arcane skills like fire by friction and building shelter.—Mark Lebetkin

REALITY: YOU PROBABLY GOT YOURSELF THERE THROUGH A SERIES OF BAD DECISIONS

Smith has a dose of reality for you: “Survival is very romanticized. It’s not about being the toughest or most experienced; it’s about keeping out of those situations. Survival is a very limited skill set in reality. To me survival is only when you’ve made so many bad decisions that, if you don’t take immediate action, you might die. It’s having an ego that gets you into trouble, and not being flexible. If I’m in the middle of a lake and the fishing’s good, and a thundercloud appears, I get off the lake!”—Mark Lebetkin




Carry on.
 
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As for compression bandages section of 4.
In Australia most of our snakes contain mainly procoagulants and Neurotoxins.
They cause blood to thicken, and damage nerve tissue such as the brain.
Compression bandages are standard treatment, and lab tests on envenomed animals prove its effective in slowing the release of venom into the central nervous system.

it also happens that Rattlesnake Venom generally works NOTHING like majority of Australian snake venoms.

So its quite possible both methods are correct when applied to the specific venoms encountered...

so
Myth 16
Assuming something is a myth everywhere could get you killed.
 
In Australia most of our snakes contain mainly procoagulants and Neurotoxins.
They cause blood to thicken, and damage nerve tissue such as the brain.
Compression bandages are standard treatment, and lab tests on envenomed animals prove its effective in slowing the release of venom into the central nervous system.

it also happens that Rattlesnake Venom generally works NOTHING like majority of Australian snake venoms.

So its quite possible both methods are correct when applied to the specific venoms encountered...

so
Myth 16
Assuming something is a myth everywhere could get you killed.

Same for most on that list. In some situations insulation from the ground is not needed, but protection from the sun or weather overhead is. According to the rule of thumb, such rules often poke you in the eye. But then consider that the source is MSN.com and....
 
I have literally never heard anyone claim that you can outrun a bear. Never. I suggest that the claim that such a myth exists is itself a myth. AKA a "straw man argument."

No. 17. It's a myth that they can always hear you back home if you yell for help.


Phoynix is guiding in the right direction. Advice usually needs to be location, and maybe even season, specific.
 
This is really a mind opener for me who's been watching a lot of naked and afraid, and dual survival tv shows.

Myth #2

I reorganized my fire kit into flame producing items instead of just ember producing stuff. It's no time for me to be playing boy scout with sticks or charcloth and ferro rod if I was in an emergency situation. It's nice to learn how to use them though, but that's my last resort after I ran out of matches.

With my low-level primitive firestarting skill, I figured my fire kit should have bic lighter, small box or book of matches with extra match strikers in ziplock bag, sparklite tinders in separate ziplock bag, and small ferro rod w/ striker.

My fire kit stuff needs to enable me to produce flame immediately instead of just an ember that has to be nurtured into flame.
 
This is really a mind opener for me who's been watching a lot of naked and afraid, and dual survival tv shows.

Myth #2

I reorganized my fire kit into flame producing items instead of just ember producing stuff. It's no time for me to be playing boy scout with sticks or charcloth and ferro rod if I was in an emergency situation. It's nice to learn how to use them though, but that's my last resort after I ran out of matches.

With my low-level primitive firestarting skill, I figured my fire kit should have bic lighter, small box or book of matches with extra match strikers in ziplock bag, sparklite tinders in separate ziplock bag, and small ferro rod w/ striker.

My fire kit stuff needs to enable me to produce flame immediately instead of just an ember that has to be nurtured into flame.

I just thought it was funny being on MSN and all.

I like the post and the ensuing discussion this will surely bring. Like 2d_edge I think there's some truth in those, and I know the forum members will add proper context or correction so - Druid - I think the post is very helpful to someone like me!
 
I wonder if there is a myth relating to internet lists of myths?
I heard from my cousin's friend that there was such a myth but then learned later from a coworker who also knows that friend that he only heard it from a guy in the bus who was just making it up mostly.
Could have been just a Bourbon Myth.
 
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Same for most on that list. In some situations insulation from the ground is not needed, but protection from the sun or weather overhead is. According to the rule of thumb, such rules often poke you in the eye. But then consider that the source is MSN.com and....

I would submit that depends on terrain and climate of the are you are in. While I'd agree with you if the nature of the terrain was a hot and dry area, I can tell you that here in PA, that's not at all practical in the spring, fall or winter. You have to have ground insulation here in the fall and winter or you will perish right next to your fire. Springtime can get freaking cold at night as well. I have learned from experience that the ground will suck the heat right out of you.
 
Myth # (x):Skills are a substitute for the right equipment.
Reality: Gear makes life easier

Myth # (x+1):Gear is a substitute for skills
Reality: Even if you have the right gear you are screwed if you don't know how to use it.
 
" You can out run a bear"
Run down hill as a bear is fat and will end up tumbling down the hill and likely hurt himself.
I first heard this as a kid growing up from my father who said he learned it when he was in Boy Scouts.
I've since learned you don't have to out run a bear, just the person your with.:D
Allan
 
I've since learned you don't have to out run a bear, just the person your with.

Makes sense.

Could that be the reason people look at each other at the sight of bear coming? They must be sizing each other's speed in running. Who would be the front runner and the left behind. Poor guy. :D
 
Makes sense.

Could that be the reason people look at each other at the sight of bear coming? They must be sizing each other's speed in running. Who would be the front runner and the left behind. Poor guy. :D

Venturing into bear country, choose you hiking partners wisely! :D
 
I've since learned you don't have to out run a bear, just the person your with.:D
Allan

THAT I have heard. Probably not a myth.

There were Black Bear all over the mountains where I camped as a Scout. They came into campsite every night to bank the cans around. We were repeatedly told never to run from a bear 'cause it just made them likely to chase you and you would lose the race.
 
THAT I have heard. Probably not a myth.

There were Black Bear all over the mountains where I camped as a Scout. They came into campsite every night to bank the cans around. We were repeatedly told never to run from a bear 'cause it just made them likely to chase you and you would lose the race.

Well, that's what the guy behind me would say while sneaking away and what I would tell him if he were between me and the bear. :D
 
There have been threads here suggesting that 'shooting the other hiker in the calf to slow him down but keep him squealing' in a bid to escape a bear, might give advantage. Who's on first? Not saying I read it, not saying I subscribe, just saying it's out there. Perhaps it's not out there. Is there a BF app for staying on topic, because I have been missing the mark a lot lately. Must be spring :D
 
There have been threads here suggesting that 'shooting the other hiker in the calf to slow him down but keep him squealing' in a bid to escape a bear, might give advantage. Who's on first? Not saying I read it, not saying I subscribe, just saying it's out there. Perhaps it's not out there. Is there a BF app for staying on topic, because I have been missing the mark a lot lately. Must be spring :D
Yeah. Wouldn't want to waste any bullets on the bear. ;)
 
There have been threads here suggesting that 'shooting the other hiker in the calf to slow him down but keep him squealing' in a bid to escape a bear, might give advantage. Who's on first? Not saying I read it, not saying I subscribe, just saying it's out there. Perhaps it's not out there. Is there a BF app for staying on topic, because I have been missing the mark a lot lately. Must be spring :D

Aaah yes the "how to defend yourself against a bear with a .22 strategy". :)
 
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