152otfg

orvet

orvet

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Here is a newly discovered Sharpfinger variation.
152OTFG- FG for Finger Grooves
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OK.....I cannot lie........
It is a blank I got from LT on ebay. I was making some other Jantz blanks with finger grooves and thought, 'Wow, what if a Sharpie had finger grooves?" Having a blank or 2 just begging to be finished, I used sanding drums to make the grooves and than finished it with Cocobolo handles.

It feels soooo good in the hand. I can't wait for hunting season, I will probably have to initiate it with a fish. I think it will steak out a Salmon with no problem. :D

Here are some Jantz blanks I finished last week:


The one on the right with the brass guard still needs some work. It has Lace Wood handles.
The center one has Bokote handles.
The one on the left has Tulip Wood handles.

I hope no one is offended that I presumed to "improve" on Schrades design.

Dale
 
Very nice work, are we going to start seeing these custom Schrades on ebay or are they reserved for vip clients only.
 
OK, that does it Dale. I'm sending you a blank and some wood. You ever worked stabilized dyed box elder burl? Wanna try mosaic pins?

Very nice work as usual. I cannot see why anyone would be offended by a customized production blank. You do need to consider your own cartouche stamp for a rivet or the tang. Who knows, Vincent Customs may be sought after. Though I'd advise you to use other initials for your mark!

Codger

 
FInger grooves are an old Schrade design feature. I'll not go so far as to say they originated the idea, but the concept can be seen on knives at least as far back as the Stratawood handled knives of the very early fifties and the slightly later WondaWood handled knives. And of course, the "S" knives like the 1963 147S and 148S Staglon handled knives.

Codger
 
Codger, Box Elder burl finishes up beautifully. The bolster material on this knife is stabilized Box Elder, dyed green, the handle is Redwood burl:



 
Oh, very nice combo William. I like the pins too.

Would this redwood birdseye lace burl be a decent match for the green boxwood?


I've been saving it for a couple of years.

Codger
 
Codger, the knife I pictured was designed and drilled for bolsters separate from the handles. As a practical matter, you would have to determine if your particular Schrade blank would lend itself to that treatment, taking into account the size and placement of the existing rivet holes and the shape of the handle. On something with a small handle and large rivet holes like the 152OT, I would be inclined to use only a single type of handle material.

However, other Schrades may be more readily adapted to the use of multiple handle materials. With the super adhesives available today, anything is possible; it's just a matter of taste.
 
orvet...Nice work...:thumbup:

redshanks...very nice piece of work!

codger...nice wood...:eek: :eek: :D

Bill
 
Bill. thanks for the thanks, but it's not my work, all I did was pay for it. The knife and sheath were made by Frank Chikey, a custom knife maker from Georgia.

This Bird & Trout knife by the same maker is my favorite:





Desert Ironwood bolsters, red and black spacers, followed by Redwood burl for the handles.
 
Upstream said:
Very nice work, are we going to start seeing these custom Schrades on ebay or are they reserved for vip clients only.
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It takes me a long time to do one of these, days usually, due to my health issues. Sometimes I work a few minutes and am done for the day. I usually spend enough time on them that I get attached to them, that is especially true of the Schrades. The 152OTFG and the 15OT I did recently are for my personal use. I thought about sending them to Paul (Sheathmaker) for a sheath, but think I would like to try my hand at making a sheath or two. I may have to send them to Paul if I don't have any luck making my own.

Codger_64 said:
I'm sending you a blank and some wood. You ever worked stabilized dyed box elder burl? Wanna try mosaic pins?
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I have not worked with any stabilized wood. Does it work differently than natural wood? I have wanted to use mosaic pins, but it is probably easier to do with blanks from Jantz that have been specially drilled for them. I don't know if you have tried to drill a hole in a knife tang before, but it is hard and expensive to do. It took me 3 drill bits to make one hole in the tang of a 498 so I could put a rivet in it. Gave my drill press a work out.
I agree with Redshanks, I would hate to try a two piece wood handle on a 152, especially with finger grooves. If you had a raw blank that hadn't been heat treated, you might be able to drill it for the extra pins, but it is still awfully small for that type handle. If you did that it would probably end up for display only. I doubt it would stand up to heavy use.
What you don't see are my failures and the times I have to remove a handle I put on because it isn't just right and start all over. That happened with the 15OT. The handle in the Jantz Cobra (in the picture earlier in this thread- center knife) has the handles I cut originally for the 15OT. I didn't like the way they fit so I cut new ones or the 15 and salvaged those for the Cobra.

ISC RIP, thanks for the reminder of the prototype Sharpfinger. I had forgotten that. That would be a knife worth having. The one I made with finger groove fits like a glove, but I cut it to fit my hand, so I would expect it to fit me.

Thank you all for your comments. It really is not that hard to do. The basic tools are a belt sander with disc sander, drill press, a Dremel Tool, sandpaper and lots of patience.

Thanks,
Dale
 
Dale (I should probably address you as Del in this post, I inadvertently referred to Del in another post as Dale), I don't want to hijack your topic, but I have an opportunity to buy a Wilton Square Wheel Grinder at a decent price. It takes the 2"x72" sanding belts in various grits as well as Scotch-Brite belts. I've only just started looking at the accessories offered for it and see that there is a buffing wheel available that would save me the cost of buying a separate buffer.

Are you familiar with this machine? Is it worth the cost from the standpoint of its usefulness?

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redshanks said:
Dale (I should probably address you as Del in this post, I inadvertently referred to Del in another post as Dale), I don't want to hijack your topic, but I have an opportunity to buy a Wilton Square Wheel Grinder at a decent price. It takes the 2"x72" sanding belts in various grits as well as Scotch-Brite belts. I've only just started looking at the accessories offered for it and see that there is a buffing wheel available that would save me the cost of buying a separate buffer.

Are you familiar with this machine? Is it worth the cost from the standpoint of its usefulness?
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The Wilton is better than my Craftsman, I am sure. Mine is is 4x36 with belts up to 320 grit available locally. The reason I bought it is the ease of finding belts locally, price point (around $100) and the fact that one maker I talked to at a show was decrying the use of 2 inch belts, as they are more prone to leave sanding marks on the blades.
However, from all I know about the Wilton, it seems good and the brand is carried by a lot of suppliers (at least in knife making circles).

The next piece of equipment I am looking for is a 1 inch belt sander, either 1X30 or 1X42. This would allow me to use a variety of products not available for my 4X36, such as Scotch Brite belts and leather honing belts. The 1 inch belt would also be better for the finer detail work on the handles that I now do by hand. I can also get finer belts for it, up to 800 grit through Jantz. This is critical for me as some of the oilier woods like Cocobolo will sand down to a high gloss finish with a 600 grit belt. there is no need to put a finish on them. I was talking to my wood supplier ( http://www.gilmerwood.com/ they have some great & expensive wood), and they said it is really hard to get a finish on Cocobolo, though they did give me a recipe for a home made finish for Cocobolo I want to try.

I have looked at the Wilton sanders and drooled (like I do at LT's knife pictures) but am afraid they are out of my retired/hobbyist price range. I would like to have a lot more equipment but my budget and my garage, (and let's not forget my wife :o ) seem to limit having too many.

No problem with the name thing, I have been called Del often (I just wish I had his knives :D ). I do not consider this is not a hijack, merely a minor rabbit trail. One of the reasons I post this is so others will discuss what they are doing with knives. I love to trade tips, but don't know any of the local knife makers, except Les De Asis, but Benchmade Knives is FAR beyond my caliber as a hobbyist knife maker. I hope to meet some local makers in April at the big Oregon Knife Show in Eugene.

If I can answer any other questions, or if you want to discuss any aspects of making knives, feel free to email at dalervincent@comcast.net
[Please note that the email address on my profile is not correct but the system won't allow me to change it (long story). ]

Dale
 
Dale, I can send you some patterns and written instructions for the 152 sheath. It isn't that hard to make a good sheath. (if it was I couldn't be doing it). If you are interested, email me at pfl@cebridge.net and give me your mailing address (USPS). Also include what pattern knives you are going to try, and what style you'd like to tackle. I think I made a little inlay job for Codger and it was posted so you might take a look at that.

Paul
 
sheathmaker said:
Dale, I can send you some patterns and written instructions for the 152 sheath. It isn't that hard to make a good sheath. (if it was I couldn't be doing it). If you are interested, email me at pfl@cebridge.net and give me your mailing address (USPS). Also include what pattern knives you are going to try, and what style you'd like to tackle. I think I made a little inlay job for Codger and it was posted so you might take a look at that.

Paul
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Thank you Paul for your kind offer. Email is inbound shortly. Those sheaths you made for Codger are real eye poppers! Nice! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Dale
 
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