154CM vs s30v

ZeroTurnDude said:
Could it be a defect in the edge?
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Possibly. You might have a wire edge. Try this. Run the full length of the edge lightly along a stone for a couple passes so you fully dull the edge. This is referred to as "de-stressing" the edge. Then work up a burr on first one side, then the other. Then remove the burr and progress through higher grits. You should be left with a sharp edge. If you continue to have issues after this it could be due to a number of factors. Often, though, and no disrespect intended, it seems like many problems are from improper sharpening. Either the edge needs to be de-stressed or there's a bit of a burr left, or some other problem, making sure correct sharpening is performed is absolutely crucial.
 
I'm not a fan of this method. Still, one must make sure the edge is burr free. Working up a burr and removing it is critical toward a properly sharpened blade. Do you have a hand held magnifier to examine the edge in bright light? DM
 
David Martin said:
I'm not a fan of this method. Still, one must make sure the edge is burr free. Working up a burr and removing it is critical toward a properly sharpened blade. Do you have a hand held magnifier to examine the edge in bright light? DM
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Yes is got one.

As far as sharping correct I'm pretty good at it but I can try this if you guys think it we'll work
I just don't have diamond stones right now so it's a bit of a pain to sharpen lol.

Thanks
 
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You do not need diamond stones to remove a burr. If your good at sharpening, a Norton India or crystalline stone can easily remove a burr on that steel. Should you only have a Arkansas stone it will be slow. Yet it can be done, especially if it is a Washita. Waterstones can as well. Just work it and feel for the burr on the opposite side. Then flip it over and work it until it's removed. Oil helps. Good sharpening, DM
 
Ok I looked at the edge with a magnifier and I didn't see a burr so I tried what
Fanglekai said to do and it seems to have worked.

Also I got a CSAR-T with 154CM and tested it on some cardboard
And In my test it held a finer edge a bit longer then S30V but it did
Dull completely before S30V did. It also sharpened a lot easier.

Thank you all for all your help.
 
Ok, good you learned something about burrs and sharpening. What stone did you use to sharpen it on? What did the edge look like under bright light and magnification?
Yes, the two steels are different. It depends on what you want to achieve as to which steel to pick.
Your welcome, DM
 
I used a very old norton stone and a 1000git lansky ceramic stone free hand

As far as looking at the edge under a
magnifier when I first looked at the edge before I ran it on a stone it looked clean to me but now that I've done it I can see where there was a burr or wire edge it now looks a lot deferent and a lot cleaner even slices paper better. I cut up some cardboard and there was no roll nothing at all.

I definitely like my S30V a lot more.
 
Ok, good. What color was the Norton stone? If you had magnification around 4X you should have been able to see the burr. Seeing where it was would have been harder. A burr on an edge could look like glitter sparkles at the apex. Just something shiny. Plus, burrs on S30V can hang on. DM
 
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That sounds like a Norton combination stone. A coarse crystalline and a medium India. I haven't seen Norton mfg. that one. It could be a combination, coarse and medium India stone. This one I've seen. If the stone is dished it's a crystalline. If not it's probably a India. The two materials are different and they wear different. Either can remove a burr on S30V. DM
 
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