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165 tang stamp ID please
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Codger_64
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Interesting! It appears to be a legit Schrade Walden U.S.A. stamp, maybe partially ground off. We know they went from stamping blade left on the first ones to stamping blade right just before the serial numbers were discontinued, but those were on the top of the choil and alligned with the blade. This stamping is placed like the Craftsman stampings which were read either from the handle or tip.
Is this one you own?
ETA- I found it. The assemblage appears to be correct. It may not have been used as claimed, but it has been carried quite a bit. And it is an odd stamping.
Is this one you own?
ETA- I found it. The assemblage appears to be correct. It may not have been used as claimed, but it has been carried quite a bit. And it is an odd stamping.
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I don't own it yet. It's out there, and I thought about buying it, but I can't bring myself to part with the $135 or so shipped. From the one shot of the tang stamp already included in this thread, look very closely at the shoulder, I think it's called. It looks VERY much like a couple of 165s I have that had the original tang stamp ground off for who really knows what reason. The grinding process sharpens the transition from choil to the primary grind. In addition, the primary grind line seems to dip down where the original stamp would have been, which would be consistent.
I could go on about the ones I've seen with removed stamping... But, this one, to me, looks like it might have been ground off, and then restamped in this orientation.
I had just never seen one before.
Greg
I could go on about the ones I've seen with removed stamping... But, this one, to me, looks like it might have been ground off, and then restamped in this orientation.
I had just never seen one before.
Greg
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Me neither. But I'll be the last to claim I have seen them all. The original tang stamps still exist, but from what I know of the people who might own them, the chance that they would use them like this is nil. They would deface/destroy them before they would see them misused.
Codger...
The more I look at the photo, especially as you rotated it 90 degrees, the more I am convinced it is one of the knives that had the original stamp removed. Look at the way the light breaks on an angle up and to the right, going under the word SCHRADE and through the WAL in WALDEN.
And, look at the highlighted area of the picture below.
Now the question remains, who restamped it and why? It is the only one I have ever seen that was ground and restamped. I even have one that was purchased through a local hardware store in 1972 or so that has been ground. They made it into the retail world even with removed markings. Why go to the trouble of restamping? The world may never know.
The more I look at the photo, especially as you rotated it 90 degrees, the more I am convinced it is one of the knives that had the original stamp removed. Look at the way the light breaks on an angle up and to the right, going under the word SCHRADE and through the WAL in WALDEN.
And, look at the highlighted area of the picture below.
Now the question remains, who restamped it and why? It is the only one I have ever seen that was ground and restamped. I even have one that was purchased through a local hardware store in 1972 or so that has been ground. They made it into the retail world even with removed markings. Why go to the trouble of restamping? The world may never know.
Well, I just got off the phone with the seller. Great guy. He confirmed that the blade does indeed get a bit thinner right at the point where the original tang stamp should have been. He also added that the marking SCHRADE WALDEN over USA is more of an acid etch than a stamp.
Greg
Greg
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Well, that opens up the possibility that it was remaindered from an SFO order and "might" have had a different tang stamp such as Craftsman. Know anyone in the BATF who can lift ground serials on guns? 
I would have bought it myself. I have several patterns that have either the tang mark or other identifiers added with an etch (such as the 15OT with "Pat. PenD.")
I would have bought it myself. I have several patterns that have either the tang mark or other identifiers added with an etch (such as the 15OT with "Pat. PenD.")