18 inch PVUK handle wiggle

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Mr. Dickiss

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I recently purchased a Padam Villager Utility Knife and I was finally able to get out and use it since it is warming up outside. Upon the first couple swings I noticed that the handle started clicking and I could feel some movement as if the epoxy came undone. I wasn't chopping any wood or anything like that but just clearing up a little bit of dead brush near my fence line. (No bigger than 3/4 inch thick at most) I was just wondering if it is still safe to use and if not what should I do about it. I am just concerned that if i use it for anything like chopping or limbing branches it might make everything worse. I don't doubt the strength of the blade seeing it is a full tang and is relatively thick at 42oz I just dont want to split my handles or have them pop off.
 
I just would hate to see it go, it is my favorite khuk in my collection and such a beautiful piece of art.
 
just make a project of it mr, it would help out auntie and give you some experience-- I really love flawed handles, because is great excuse for grip job! and not the kind you get in an alley!
 
Gehazi said:
just make a project of it mr, it would help out auntie and give you some experience-- I really love flawed handles, because is great excuse for grip job! and not the kind you get in an alley!
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I would love to make a project of it but sadly I am without the tools to do it and inexperienced with handle work.
 
don't really need much-- but I understand totally, if it was me , I would try to keep if I could , as I know how a blade can sing to you-- also understand not having tinker time to play around
 
Gehazi said:
don't really need much-- but I understand totally, if it was me , I would try to keep if I could , as I know how a blade can sing to you-- also understand not having tinker time to play around
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Yeah it is my favorite in my collection, next to my Thamar CAK
 
If it's true love with "That" blade and it's full tang, and you want "that one" I could probably fix that for you. If it's not true love and your ok getting it swapped I'd be happy to fix it for Auntie although Kanchi seems pretty good at this stuff too. A loose handle isn't the end of the line for a good blade.

If I can help your or Auntie, count me in.
 
I have a Samsher with the same problem. I think ill just heat up the handle and see if the laha sticks again. I aint sending it back tho. Its mine now:D I have a few tools so shouldn't be a problem for me. Actually thats pretty rare for that stuff to come loose if its done right. Its some amazingly tough stuff. I wish I could get a bucket of it here in the US.
 
I really love this blade and the wood is just beautiful, if it could be repaired then I would much rather fix it instead of swapping it for something else and having Auntie have to deal with it. I know she is a very busy lady and I just want to create as little issues as possible.
 
I think some have put the handle in a plastic bag with a rubber band or tape around the top of the bag to seal it then submerge just the handle in boiling water to reflow the laha (glue) to restick it. This way it keeps the handle dry but gets heated evenly and can never get above boiling temp. Not sure how long it takes?

Upon further inspection i noticed the problem with mine. The pins are loose. I can actually slide them completely out leaving the brass sleeve behind. Check to make sure your pins are tight. See if it will push out with ease. They shouldnt. Ill get back to you on the boiling trick. I think i need to get the scales tight before I repin it.
 
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Mr. Dickiss said:
Wouldn't it mess with the ht of the blade
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As long as you dont get it hotter than the water then no it wont. Just make sure the blade aint hanging out of the pot over the fire or something. 212 degrees F is too low to do anything to the heat treat. Ill go out and chop something now and see if I can determine exactly whats loose on mine then ill do the boil and check to see if I got it stuck. If so then ill put some longer pins in and hammer them out. If your pins are loose then you might end up having to do some filing and or sanding to get it back to new condition so keep that in mind.
 
After further inspection under magnification and a good light I can see clean through on the bottom of the handle between the scales and the tang to the pins as if the laha had became brittle and fallen out. The pins are secure to the wood but are not wide enough for the holes in the tang to sit snug without the epoxy in there so it is a combination of things that made it come loose so soon.
 
The thing is.....she wants it back so she can see it and identify the problem herself and can speak to the kamis about it.
She'll replace it with one with scales as nice as she can.
 
Karda said:
The thing is.....she wants it back so she can see it and identify the problem herself and can speak to the kamis about it.
She'll replace it with one with scales as nice as she can.
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I know, I emailed her early in the afternoon about it.
 
It could be to do it proper the pins may need to be removed and scales all cleaned up of laha and replaced with epoxy or in bawannas case acraglass then re-pinned. I have no doubt he could do it proper as he offered and I think i could too but he offered first;) The laha on mine is cracked all the way around both scales as well and some pieces have fallen out in places. The laha makes for good filler material as well since it cures hard and even takes somewhat of a polish. That I suppose is a nice advantage to using the stuff. If you end up having to deal with the pins and such without tools and want to keep the same blade I think id take bawanna (ooops small "b") up on his kind repair offer. Then again you may be able to boil it in a bag and stick it back and never have a problem again? Dont know what to say beyond that because I have never tried to reflow the laha.

I can see Kardas point of view as well. The Kamis need to know whats happening.
 
Didn't think of that, Auntie probably does want to see it as Karda said. Send it to her without question. She can then decide if she can come close to matching it (probably so) or getting it fixed.

It may be difficult to save the grip panels too, they may pop off when the pins are drilled out or they may crack or do bad things.

I have a couple bowies come through where I think they weren't quick enough and the laha cooled too much before they were pinned. The pins were loose and all bent up and the panels pretty much just popped off, those were both Min's. As I recall they still broke off little chunks and it would have been difficult to put the original slabs back on.
 
Auntie told me earlier she was going to have me send it back in to her, I am just gonna miss it is all.
 
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