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18" Keffeler Sword (K18), AKA The KOD Piece

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by Nathan the Machinist, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    After the TV show Knife Or Death we were talking about what would be an ideal piece to take on that show. A small sword with some length (but not too much length) with a stout primary edge that could go through some of the harder targets and a thin sharp spine that could reliably sail through softer targets. A neutral balance to be used with one hand but designed to accommodate two handed grips for power cuts. Evil Genius and world acclaimed sword maker and competitive cutting champion Dr. Dan Keffeler came up with this:

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    It's actually pretty big. Other knives folks are familiar with for scale:

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    18" Blade, 29" total length, Delta 3V, ~.200", ~ 2lbs, 14 oz. CG 1" in front of the guard, green Terotuf, no sheath, as machined (on our new Mori) ground as necessary and tumbled. Front edge probably 22 DPS, rear probably 18 DPS and very thin.

    Dan is still doing development but we have a pretty good idea of the final geometry. The design will change a little as we finish our homework. The prototype you've seen at Blade Show is not the final version.

    Price will be $1,175

    All of the steel machining for the chopper pre-orders is complete. The UF are on all three of our primary machines now. I'm looking for what's going on next and if we're ever going to do this piece now is the time to get it into queue.

    I'm going to open the pre-order for it on Friday. I'm hoping there are orders for 80, but we need for there to be 50 in order to start the run. I calculate that as our break-even point. If you ever wanted a CPK/Keffeler sword, this will be it. The pre-order opens Friday at 5 eastern time.
     
  2. aqw955

    aqw955 Gold Member Gold Member

    207
    Aug 24, 2013
    Wow! Any distal taper or just same spine width?
     
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  3. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    841
    Apr 7, 2016
    Lifting my self imposed ban for one message.

    Holy shit that is a helluva good price for that! Thanks, Nathan!

    Ban reinstated.
     
  4. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    This is simply uncharted, unbelievable, unreal, heretofore un-effing-conceivable territory for knife fans.
     
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  5. AnotherDogDown17

    AnotherDogDown17 Gold Member Gold Member

    271
    Jul 29, 2015
    Ummm, I need to contact the bank. And start preparing the doghouse. My doghouse...
     
  6. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Anodizing and Embellishment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
    SO FRAKING IN!:D There's no damned way I'm missing this after handling the prototype! (Plus I've been whining about it for a year;))
     
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  7. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    I always wanted a sword but a full on custom one, or one of Dan’s limited edition samples will probably be too rich for my blood so I will get in line with at least 50 other monkeys from these parts of the bizarre-o world!

    Don’t like it to be named KoD sword though. CKS is great :)
     
  8. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    No taper. I would taper it if the design called for it, but a blade this length that doesn't narrow won't need to taper unless you need a lot of tip speed (at the expense of reduced power from lower moment of inertia). There's an argument for proximal taper on something like this.
     
  9. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    oh my god you're not banned would you come back to the forum now please
     
  10. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Don’t call it KoD sword and he will lift the self banishment :p
     
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  11. Hundred Acre Wood

    Hundred Acre Wood

    161
    Mar 19, 2017
    I have zero practical need for this knife/short sword. So I'll probably be ordering two of them...because Nathan said they balance in one hand, and I have two big hands.
     
  12. zmbhntr

    zmbhntr ̿' ̿'\̵͇̿̿\з=(•̪●)=ε/̵͇̿̿/'̿''̿ ̿

    Jul 28, 2014
    I am in for this!!!!
     
  13. CataD

    CataD Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    @Nathan the Machinist, I understand the concept :), but, is there any way to order it with the rear/spine edge not sharpened? Please?

    Thanks!
    C.
     
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  14. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    As they say, there are three things in life you can count on... the sun comes up in the east, death, and @zmbhntr is down for this.
     
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  15. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Anodizing and Embellishment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
    I love that it only comes in green;)
     
  16. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    Yes
     
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  17. zmbhntr

    zmbhntr ̿' ̿'\̵͇̿̿\з=(•̪●)=ε/̵͇̿̿/'̿''̿ ̿

    Jul 28, 2014
    Am I that transparent? ;)
     
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  18. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Anodizing and Embellishment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
    29" of Nathan's D...3V, I hope I can take it:eek::confused::D
     
  19. mb>

    mb> Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 24, 2014
    Sweet
     
  20. zmbhntr

    zmbhntr ̿' ̿'\̵͇̿̿\з=(•̪●)=ε/̵͇̿̿/'̿''̿ ̿

    Jul 28, 2014
    I’m really excited about this, and I really hope this sells like hot cakes! I’d hate to have to buy 50 personally.
     
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